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  1. #1
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    CJ-10 aircraft tug conversion

    I may be coming into a CJ-10 diesel aircraft tug, or at least be able to buy it very cheap. I'd be interested in converting it to a true CJ-10 pickup. My question is, has anyone ever tackled this and know what on the tug is usable versus not? I know they are only 4x2 and have a super low geared transmission. My question is, can that Nissan 33SD diesel be adapted to anything else? Furthermore, is the engine even worth using since it's non-turbo?

    I'm assuming both the front and rear ends would need to go as well, which wouldn't be a huge deal. Is it built essentially on a CJ-7 frame or is it its own beast?
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    Have one in the project stage and have done quite a bit of research on these. Decent engine for what it is and they run forever. Chopped Wagoneer frame so it has much more beef than CJ. Tug engines are later N/A engines than thd Scout N/A and have the proper internals to upgrade to turbo. Several build threads on Pirate from mild to extreme. Transmission choices are limited to Big Block 727 that is in it (my choice), Scout T19 (would need adapter too), Phoenix adapter to GM auto like 700R4.

    I am in Richmond so send me a PM will cell number if you want to discuss.
    Richard

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  3. #3
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    Lots of people have done this. I agree that you should check out Pirate for some of the threads there. In short, you're sitting on an FSJ frame with a transfercase locked into low range. The rear is a nice beefy full-floating Dana 60. Most people seem to ditch the Nissan engine, but I've got a friend who is still running it. An FSJ front axle will bolt up, and I believe you can unlock the transfercase.
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    Thanks guys. Is the frame the same width as an fsj frame? Would be great if I could use a j truck bed with a stretched frame.
    '82 CJ-8 - 401 V8
    '79 CJ-7 - LaRenegade Edition project :)
    '85 CJ-10a

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK-RWC View Post
    Lots of people have done this. I agree that you should check out Pirate for some of the threads there. In short, you're sitting on an FSJ frame with a transfercase locked into low range. The rear is a nice beefy full-floating Dana 60. Most people seem to ditch the Nissan engine, but I've got a friend who is still running it. An FSJ front axle will bolt up, and I believe you can unlock the transfercase.
    The rear is actually a very wide Dana 70.
    John N
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    Plus.... 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland (DD), CJ-7 (in pieces) and 3 off brand 4x4s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberDuck View Post
    Thanks guys. Is the frame the same width as an fsj frame? Would be great if I could use a j truck bed with a stretched frame.
    J truck bed would be WAY to wide. CJ10a tub is same spec's as a CJ basically, width wise anyway. Check out dinoot.com, maybe use one of their trailer kits for a bed. Or modify the back half of a YJ/TJ/LJ tub to use as a bed. Find an old army trailer, a m416 or a cut down m101, both have been done. I bought a 10a 16 years ago and just sold it 2 years ago, it just sat as I bought it and then found out my township wouldn't really let me work on it in my driveway. It gave it's life to restore a true CJ10 "pickup"

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    Wonder if a Willys pickup bed would fit? They seem a good bit narrower.
    '82 CJ-8 - 401 V8
    '79 CJ-7 - LaRenegade Edition project :)
    '85 CJ-10a

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    1x1SpeedCraig has a build thread on here for one with the diesel. There's a ton of these builds out there if you search.

    When I get back to my computer I'll move this to the other CJ forum.




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    The wheelbase as is is VERY short for a bed, they look odd IMHO unless you stretch between the wheels.


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    '84 Alaskan Postal CJ-8: Right-hand drive, World Cab, 35s, outboarded RE 4.5" lift, XD9000i, PSC armor, Waggy 44/HD20, 4.0/AW4
    '05 Rubicon LJ: ORFAB bumpers, Ramsey 9000e, 3" Black Diamond lift, 315/75 Duratracs, GR8TOPS Exogate and prototype Safari hard top, 6-speed, CB, GR8TOPS Safari Cab
    '77 Cherokee S 4-door "Mater": Aero Tank aux gas tank, part time kit in tcase, Warn lockouts, 360 with goodies, saggy springs, loads of patina
    '08 JK Unlimited: Stock, auto, heated seat
    '99 Ford E350 "the bus": Redneck camper/tow rig conversion

    My AK Postal page | All of the pics from the trip | Rockcrawler.com story of bringing the postal home from AK to NC


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    You cant get parts for the nissian at all, pull it and put a cummins in it.
    4 btaa cummins nv 4500 clocked dana 300

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    If the frame is a cut down Waggy frame, couldn't you just swap the cab onto a Waggy frame and then build a bed? Would the front of the frame need to be modified much to fit the tug front end?


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  12. #12
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    Here's Craig's detailed thread on the Great Lakes 4x4 forum:

    http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=27185

    Here's where he listed it for sale on here:
    http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?18413-O-T-Built-Jeep-CJ-10a-Tug-%28Diesel-D44s-34-quot-tires-etc-


    Last edited by bigwalton; 02-27-2013 at 10:34 PM.

    '84 Alaskan Postal CJ-8: Right-hand drive, World Cab, 35s, outboarded RE 4.5" lift, XD9000i, PSC armor, Waggy 44/HD20, 4.0/AW4
    '05 Rubicon LJ: ORFAB bumpers, Ramsey 9000e, 3" Black Diamond lift, 315/75 Duratracs, GR8TOPS Exogate and prototype Safari hard top, 6-speed, CB, GR8TOPS Safari Cab
    '77 Cherokee S 4-door "Mater": Aero Tank aux gas tank, part time kit in tcase, Warn lockouts, 360 with goodies, saggy springs, loads of patina
    '08 JK Unlimited: Stock, auto, heated seat
    '99 Ford E350 "the bus": Redneck camper/tow rig conversion

    My AK Postal page | All of the pics from the trip | Rockcrawler.com story of bringing the postal home from AK to NC


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