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certifiablejeep

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I definitely think the denim kit is much better than the nutmeg vinyl material with respect to the closeness of original... this black denim has the texture and it pretty close... the piping they use the same material though and isn't as dark as what would be OEM, but for something that is not a ton of money for 2 seat covers, you can repair some ripped originals pretty quickly and appear factory looking without having to find super nice originals that probably would end up costing more.

They aren't original, but from what I have seen in aftermarket products for CJs... this material is pretty close.

cb
 

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Where/who manufactured the vinyl kit. There will come a day where I will be at a point to address my seats. That is the color or close to it.
 

Kim Dawson

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Picked up the first set of bumper extensions from the foundry yesterday. I'm making a few slight changes to the pattern so they will come out of the sand mold easier. But they look good and fit great. After I put a little more draft in a few places, the foundry man wants to put it on a plate to save some time when making the molds. In my literature I found them in 1982 on Scramblers, CJ7 Limited, and as accessories for all CJs. I thought it would be nice to polish the aluminum when used on chrome bumpers but now I see they used black ones on all standard bumpers.
 

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certifiablejeep

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Great work CB but are you shipping them South or waiting until Spring next year for that pesky Sun to appear properly again? :D

It was enough sun that day to help relax it so I could pull it, a little hair dryer, and got them done... I put them in the Orange Jeep CJ5 for now... I have all winter to look at them and see if I like them in there or not.

I will get a picture tonight.

cb
 

certifiablejeep

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Picked up the first set of bumper extensions from the foundry yesterday. I'm making a few slight changes to the pattern so they will come out of the sand mold easier. But they look good and fit great. After I put a little more draft in a few places, the foundry man wants to put it on a plate to save some time when making the molds. In my literature I found them in 1982 on Scramblers, CJ7 Limited, and as accessories for all CJs. I thought it would be nice to polish the aluminum when used on chrome bumpers but now I see they used black ones on all standard bumpers.

They look great... I am definitely interested in a couple pairs when you get them to where you feel they are right.

cb
 

Kim Dawson

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When AMC sold these as a kit, they included hex head bolts for mounting in four places for each end. One hole for them is in the bumper from the factory. When I do my extensions, I plan on using the two mounting points on the face of the bumper on each end. I'll be looking for carriage bolts and planning on putting square holes to accept them. Not like AMC did it, but I like the smooth look on the face of the bumper. The bolts that go on the top and bottom of the bumper I'm not going to use. So my question to anyone interested in these, should I not put holes in them, or put the two square holes on the face of each of them and supply carriage bolts to fit?
 

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I definitely think the denim kit is much better than the nutmeg vinyl material with respect to the closeness of original... this black denim has the texture and it pretty close...

These look great. I would be interested in nutmeg denim, but it looks like their nutmeg isn't really denim just smooth vinyl.
 

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When AMC sold these as a kit, they included hex head bolts for mounting in four places for each end. One hole for them is in the bumper from the factory. When I do my extensions, I plan on using the two mounting points on the face of the bumper on each end. I'll be looking for carriage bolts and planning on putting square holes to accept them. Not like AMC did it, but I like the smooth look on the face of the bumper. The bolts that go on the top and bottom of the bumper I'm not going to use. So my question to anyone interested in these, should I not put holes in them, or put the two square holes on the face of each of them and supply carriage bolts to fit?

The only Jeep I have ever seen them on (with my own eyes in person) was when I did the RHD

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I think the front carriage bolts is a good idea, as it would be smoother, but if you have the light tabs as well as pictured ^^, you would have 2 style bolts now on the bumper... I guess it depends on what look is trying to be achieved.

This is definitely a one off case here as the bumper and then brush-guard, tow hooks, etc. are all jammed in there.

If you had just a plain stock black bumper, you would have the mounting bolts for it more visible and those are hex as well.

So, I said a lot here, but I don't have and overwhelming opinion either way... losing a bolt at the top and bottom to clean it up is fine, carriage or hex... not sure.

cb
 

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It was enough sun that day to help relax it so I could pull it, a little hair dryer, and got them done... I put them in the Orange Jeep CJ5 for now... I have all winter to look at them and see if I like them in there or not.

I will get a picture tonight.

cb

The Jeeps are packed in tight, but was able to get a couple shots...

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I had low backs in there, but with the 3 point harnesses bar from rockhard4x4 I kept hitting my upper back/neck area...these are much better, but also the low backs gave me more room...

Doesn't matter much now, we have 12-18" of snow coming and the Jeeps won't see the outside world until at least May...

cb
 

Kim Dawson

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The only Jeep I have ever seen them on (with my own eyes in person) was when I did the RHD

20150925_172537.jpg


I think the front carriage bolts is a good idea, as it would be smoother, but if you have the light tabs as well as pictured ^^, you would have 2 style bolts now on the bumper... I guess it depends on what look is trying to be achieved.

This is definitely a one off case here as the bumper and then brush-guard, tow hooks, etc. are all jammed in there.

If you had just a plain stock black bumper, you would have the mounting bolts for it more visible and those are hex as well.

So, I said a lot here, but I don't have and overwhelming opinion either way... losing a bolt at the top and bottom to clean it up is fine, carriage or hex... not sure.

cb


Thanks for that picture CB. Good point on matching bolts. Maybe I should just stick to what amc offered, hex bolts, and make the carriage bolts an option for anyone interested. Easier for me not to file out the square holes for carriage bolts. I was wondering if Overlanders used these extensions or something similar.
 

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Thanks for that picture CB. Good point on matching bolts. Maybe I should just stick to what amc offered, hex bolts, and make the carriage bolts an option for anyone interested. Easier for me not to file out the square holes for carriage bolts. I was wondering if Overlanders used these extensions or something similar.

I’m out right now, but when I get home I’ll shoot a pic of the rear bumper. I think they used a front bumper from the limited for 5he rear bumper. The front bumper is a custom aluminum setup only used on the overlanders.

Update, the caps on the rear bumper are plastic. I think Tommy told me they were from a special Jeep edition in 82???

They do not have any exposed screws or bolts.

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I would be interested in a set or 2 of the aluminum castings. If they are cast without holes, that is how I would like them. I would tig a fastener to the rear to mimic the overlander caps so I can remove the stock ones and preserve them.
 
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Kim Dawson

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Thanks for the pictures ag4ever. Is the Overlander rear bumper a CJ front bumper? Or at least the same height as a front bumper?
 

Loyalpoke

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Picked up the first set of bumper extensions from the foundry yesterday. I'm making a few slight changes to the pattern so they will come out of the sand mold easier. But they look good and fit great. After I put a little more draft in a few places, the foundry man wants to put it on a plate to save some time when making the molds. In my literature I found them in 1982 on Scramblers, CJ7 Limited, and as accessories for all CJs. I thought it would be nice to polish the aluminum when used on chrome bumpers but now I see they used black ones on all standard bumpers.

Kim, I'm definitely interested when you are ready to start selling them. Thanks!
 

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The Overlander rear bumper is indeed a black front CJ bumper with plastic end caps that come from the 1982-83 Limted CJ7's.

Those plastic end caps did not survive up here in the Northeast... the bolts always rusted and snapped off when trying to remove them... and then the sun would warp the plastic :(

cb
 
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