1983 frame off refresh - finally

mhinchliffe

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Ok guys, I've had a yj in the past and ended up selling it as family and starting a business took priority. Like all of you I've always been drawn to the 8 due to its uniqueness and larger cj7 scale. I'm not going to build a serious off road only or buggy, I'm going to bring this back to a very nice reliable driver capable of taking off road should I decide to.
My search had started with 7's and I'm kind of glad I didn't find what I wanted then. I will say that I did speak with Rudy on several occasions concerning a couple of his vehicles and have nothing but good things to pass on and say about his business as well as his products. He's got clean jeeps! Having said that I went and looked at scrambled eggs when he had it up for sale. It was nice to meet with him and he represented his jeep well over the phone and in person. Here's a picture from that road trip........
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Well we decided that if we were going to build one we'd just keep on looking and lurking this forum and learning all that I could to educate myself. Through this we got the awesome opportunity to meet a very famous country music group. Here's the family at that one, thanks to that guy in a big way. Our kids love the band!
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So I ended up finding one on craigslist in ohio about 30 minutes from where I grew up so I had my brother do the deal for me and I headed out again this time knowing I'd have a scrambler on he trailer. Along the way I stopped off in Marietta ohio and picked up an acme hard top and fiberglass doors with upper sliders and bottom windows. Not a bad score plus the guy threw in an old tailgate which will hang on the shop wall. Here's the obligatory shot in the rear view.....
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mhinchliffe

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Here's the little jeep guy loving it!


And I finally moved on to removing the bedliner. Once I switched from a heat gun to a propane torch it was on!


Next I just started taking things apart. Didn't go to bad at all. I've got a few small pin holes in the floor and bed to repair, a couple of spots on the rockers and the left rear wheel well is rusted. I figure some panels and pieces are going to be coming from classic




And just to show you the tub is no longer married to the frame


Going, going, gone......






On to the carnage......








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mhinchliffe

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Because I travel for extended periods for my work I took the heater assembly and interior dash wiring harness with me and repaired, detailed them.

Which brings me to where I'm at now, doing the frame, suspension and axles. I'll do these in black. Had just a little bit of rework to do due to the PO not being a welder....





Next I cleaned the trans and d300 along with the cross member and the, what I've come to find out, is I've got a trailquest 23 gallon tank so I cleaned it too.







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mhinchliffe

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That's where the project is right now. I'll try to keep up on this as best I can to keep me not only motivated but on task. Looking to sling some paint soon.


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mhinchliffe

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Little more done today at lunch



And this



I was able to get the steering box out no problem



Blasted the front upper shock mounts, here's a comparison




Really like my blast cabinet


Going to try and get the frame off the suspension soon as well as steam clean the engine and order up a gasket and seal set for it, the gearbox and t case.

Thanks for looking.
Oh, anybody have a 1.08 - 2100 carb on a shelf?


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Nice progress! I drill a small drain hole in the bottoms of the shock mounts so I can flush out mud or road debris. I have pulled off too many that were rotted out and filled with dirt. Sometimes it has taken out the frame too.
 

mhinchliffe

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Hope you all had a great turkey day. We all did here! IM'd a member about some side steps and it's looking good!
Anyways, a little progress here on the disassembly......



Motor mounts off


Motor and axles out


Any of you guys find your VIN on you frame? Pretty cool!

That's all I have for now. Will get a little more work done soon


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Back at it. Hope y'all had a great thanksgiving and are enjoying decorating for Christmas as much as I am. I've got the suspension off the axles, the frame polished up (wire brushed and flapper disc'd) prior to steam cleaning. I've got just 1 more rear shackle hanger bolt to drill out and tap. There were 4 in total that I had to drill and tap, easy enough though. On to the pictures.....














That was them all soaped up and soaking waiting on the steam cleaner. I'm not too concerned with the backing plates as I'm going to do a rear disc brake swap during assembly. Those fancy stainless steel e-brake cables are up for grabs, if you need them they're yours!


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mhinchliffe

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All right, here's the finished product......I'm using a very caustic soap that I get in a 5 gallon container, it's bad a** scthuff.









Then on to the bolts this evening. Thanks to grandpa for showing me how to sharpen a twist bit!
Smooth for center punching


Center punched


Little silver twistie things


Drilled out


And tapped......


I suppose I ought to let y'all know what my plans are for this build ( I can call it that, can't i?)

2 1/2" OME YJ lift complete hangers, shackles, etc
Ball joints
Drag link
U joints
Calipers
Hoses
Hard lines
Prime and paint frame
Rear disc conversion
Axle bearings and seals
Trans and tcase bearings and seals
Clutch
Seats
MC 2100 carb, gotta get rid of the webber
Throw my GA ducker DUI dizzy in
Thinking 32" tires on my chrome 15x7 wheels
New seatbelts
Might even add AC
Complete necessary bodywork and paint!
How long could this possibly take? I've already decided not to hurry it.



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I suppose I ought to let y'all know what my plans are for this build ( I can call it that, can't i?)

2 1/2" OME YJ lift complete hangers, shackles, etc
Ball joints
Drag link
U joints
Calipers
Hoses
Hard lines
Prime and paint frame
Rear disc conversion
Axle bearings and seals
Trans and tcase bearings and seals
Clutch
Seats
MC 2100 carb, gotta get rid of the webber
Throw my GA ducker DUI dizzy in
Thinking 32" tires on my chrome 15x7 wheels
New seatbelts
Might even add AC
Complete necessary bodywork and paint!
How long could this possibly take? I've already decided not to hurry it.



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Looks good! If you go at my speed, about 24 1/2 years. If you keep working on it at your current speed, you'll be "done" in a few months (you're never really "done" with a CJ).
 

mhinchliffe

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Ok. If you'll keep reading I'll keep posting. The constant updating forces me to stay on task and keep progressing. So here's where it's at tonight. I tapped all of the holes I needed to so that's done so all I'll have to do is stuff bolts in holes during assembly.
Pretty much focused on two areas being the "wollered" out front bumper mounting holes. I wanted these to be robust as I plan to someday flat tow this vehicle. I used some 1/8" plate I had in the shop. I welded and ground both sides of the welds for strength and appearance









The other thing I did was to repair the body mounts that I deemed needing replaced. Figured if I was the welder on this job.......











Mr. Sweet Bead himself.....




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mhinchliffe

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Finished the welding and took the frame outside to degrease and apply aircraft stripper then steam clean. All I can say is wow! Here's a few shots of that whole process...

Front underside crossmember, I'll come back to this




Did the steering box and shaft as well




Stripper applied







Blistered!



Steamed that whole mess off and did the gas tank too. I'm really happy with the way it turned out!


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mhinchliffe

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Being on a roll I decided to dry things off and apply some phosphoric acid to transform any iron oxide (rust) to iron phosphate. This can then be primed and painted as you normally would. I'm going to use an oil base gloss black. I'm doing this so I can touch up easily if I ever need to. I think that with proper prep, product shouldn't really matter. I can't see myself using a $125/gallon epoxy primer on this if I properly prep. Here's what I'm left with to dry overnight. This was pretty neat stuff to use and who'd ever thought I'd use the chemistry class I so much didn't want to take.









Compare this picture to the one I referenced in my last post. This is after degreasing, paint removal and applying the phosphoric acid



I've also got to try and merge the beer thread in to mine. A very hoppy local brew from Foothills Brewing here in Winston Salem. My personal favorite



Hope to have the paint gun hissing this weekend


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mhinchliffe

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Work has taken a priority as has the family. I think I left off after the acid etch, well it been primed and painted. Here are a few shots of that whole process.





When I had the frame flipped I took the opportunity to cut off the rivet heads and knock them through to allow me to relocate the shackle hangers to install YJ leafs in the front. It wasn't bad at all, I just used the Metabo and a drift pin. I think this would be just a tad bit more difficult with an assembled front end and having to work side down to boot.







 
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