1984 Jeep CJ-7 full electric conversion

[timo439]

Still not sold on Single Peddle. I love the clutch and its so smooth when I shift, plus I do have full regen. I also like that I don't have to "train" someone how to drive. If you can drive stick, its brainless. To each their own but don't get me wrong, your project is amazing.

 

[4x4 EVC]

Still not sold on Single Peddle. I love the clutch and its so smooth when I shift, plus I do have full regen. I also like that I don't have to "train" someone how to drive. If you can drive stick, its brainless. To each their own but don't get me wrong, your project is amazing.

Oh god no, I take ZERO offense whatsoever, no worries there my EV Brother.

So what happens when you are cruising to a stop, Regen doing it's thing, you just put the clutch in and shift?

I guess the real question is, did you hook up K1-7 to your clutch peddle - I'm assuming that's right?

SPM (Single Peddle Mode) won't come to you naturally unless you play a lot of golf and use a cart (I don't). When I bought my Chevy Bolt, it was a learning progression:
- Drive like an automatic.
- Paddle Regen (Paddle not Peddle, it's on the steering wheel, you press it and it kicks in Regen and you slow down, it's bad-ass!)
- SPM - once you sorta' figure the whole braking with regen thing in your head, that's all you do, you can go for days and days bearly touching your brakes. That's why they don't have a schedule replacement for them till about 150,000 miles!
- SPM + Paddle (again, PADDLE, not Peddle) - this is a thing I just tried one day and it works - you're in SPM and you're coming to a stop but for whatever reason, you miss-calculated how far till your car comes to a complete stop under SPM so, instead of touching your brakes, you use the Paddle which acts like a Regen multiplier. It's the only way to drive once you try it.

As for re-teaching someone, I'm okay with that, my 26 year-old son figured it in about a day after I showed him. It took me about a week to get used to it now I can't imagine driving any EV any other way - including my Jeep. No Paddle but all SPM.

- Patrick

 

[4x4 EVC]

@timo439 , what kind of range are you seeing from your build?

 

[ag4ever]

I wish the 4xe had true SPM. I can drive 97% with just the throttle, but the last 3% to stop at a light or stop sign, just sucks.

With regen set aggressively, you can control your speed very well with how you feather the throttle.

Makes for a very relaxed method of driving.

 

[4x4 EVC]

I wish the 4xe had true SPM. I can drive 97% with just the throttle, but the last 3% to stop at a light or stop sign, just sucks.

With regen set aggressively, you can control your speed very well with how you feather the throttle.

Makes for a very relaxed method of driving.

Exactly, it makes for an entirely different Jeep driving experience.

I haven't done ANY trail or even a single mile of off-road yet, I can't wait to see how it works out in the dirt.

 

[4x4 EVC]

Range update:


I don't think I could be any happier with these results and I'm almost at 1k miles in under 1 month of driving almost every single day.

SPM is the ONLY way to fly. I get better range off-road and surface streets then highway - the exact opposite of ICE motors. Finally, a driving scenario that suites the unique shape and utilization of a rolling refrigerator!

I'm averaging around 2.70 mi/kWh - that's INSANE for a DIY drop in kit.

Also, if you look at the Running Total row, for 911 miles, only cost me $80 (home charging, not retail electricity out among the English and all...).

- Patrick

 

[4x4 EVC]

Ready for this horseshit - Enel X Way USA, the company that makes the JuiceBox (or at least it's software) is going out of business (at least in this section of their business)!

I use a JuiceBox at my house to charge and their app to get the data to plug into my spreadsheet.

As of Oct 11, all that will cease to function. The hardware will still work but they won't be supporting any of the software that stores and gives you access to it via BlueTooth and WiFi to their JuiceBoxes.

Here's what you can search on to find more info: 'Closure of Enel X Way USA, LLC'.

So, the pain in the ass is how I'll capture all this info to keep my range calculations going....

What a pain.

- Patrick

 

[FLCJ8]

@4x4 EVC

Maybe something like this would work:

Vue Home Energy Monitor

The Vue Home Energy Monitor tracks your overall home energy consumption and, with additional sensors, monitors the energy use of specific devices in your home.

www.emporiaenergy.com

I have one in my home and can monitor 16 different circuits, view them on my phone app, and can view on my laptop plus download the info to a spreadsheet.

 

[4x4 EVC]

@4x4 EVC

Maybe something like this would work:

Vue Home Energy Monitor

The Vue Home Energy Monitor tracks your overall home energy consumption and, with additional sensors, monitors the energy use of specific devices in your home.

www.emporiaenergy.com

I have one in my home and can monitor 16 different circuits, view them on my phone app, and can view on my laptop plus download the info to a spreadsheet.

No, too much for this job BUT, I've looked into that before - VERY cool tech. I want it but need to do an important upgrade to my electric panel, it's stuck in 1946, maxed out and always ready to burst into flames at any moment.

As for portable monitering, I can do most of it, I think. I'm not sure how I would get the kWh added though...

Anyway, I'm jealous you have this stuff!

 

[FLCJ8]

Anyway, I'm jealous you have this stuff!

Yeah, okay which part...
because I can afford a ~$140 system or I have the knowledge/training to install it?

Neither compare to your build.

 

[4x4 EVC]

Yeah, okay which part...
because I can afford a ~$140 system or I have the knowledge/training to install it?

Neither compare to your build.

Your reply is humbling and kind - thank you very much.

I'm a religious trial-and-error kinda' guy - look at the problem, stare at the problem, fake it with whatever you have - cardboard, 1/8" plywood, blue tape, stare at it HARDER, adjust, adjust, adjust, make a version - revise, make another version, try to break it, stare at it, ask you son to sit next to you, explain out loud what you're trying to do, say it over and over, give him $20 and tell him he's amazing (which he IS!), revise.

Then, add surrounding parts to it because everything fits in a vacuum but we don't live in a vacuum. Stare harder.

I think I'm losing it.

Thanks for the kind words and suggestion about a replacement JuiceBox logger.

 

[4x4 EVC]

Slipped in a quick video right at dusk. So torquey.

 

[4x4 EVC]

Just posted this on the other site, thought you guys might like to see it also:

Here's my gearing and final output info. In general, you can drive all day without shifting out of 3rd. It drives about as peppy as a stock Jeep off the line (meaning nothing to write home about). BUT, still in 3rd, there seems to be no top end, it easily goes faster then the speedometer has numbers - 85mph++.

I personaly like shifting so when I come to a light, or on a hill in traffic, I'll shift to 2nd and stay there to get quicker off the line and better regen in stop and go traffic.

If I'm tooling around, or on the highway, 3rd gear and forget it.

The torque at the wheel in Lo-Lo is nutty. More dirt trail work is necessary and missing from my life at the moment...