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Alaskan Postal Scrambler/World Cab - count/registry - help build the list

bigwalton

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This came up on a text conversation after I saw another Postal up for sale on a FB group where the World Cab/doors were no longer with the Jeep. I wasn't familiar with the Postal for sale, so I had the same quick sad moment I always feel when I find out about another AK Postal that had the top/doors separated (I know it's their Jeep to do what they like and that's fine, it doesn't keep me from being sad to see it.)

So I asked Bad Karma how many Alaskan Postals there probably are that actually still have the World Cab with the Jeep. We both came up with 50 as a guess. We are 100% positive on the original number of 230 from the USPS documentation I got at the Museum of Alaskan Transportation and Industry in Wasilla, AK, and I have been told that after the auction in Anchorage, a good number of the new owners took the Jeeps to the dump to take off and discard the World Cab.

I saw with my own eyes a couple Postals in a junkyard in Anchorage in sad shape when I was there to retrieve mine and the seller of mine had a second one that was one where the original auction buyer trashed the top, so it had a -10a half cab on it.

I started throwing out the list of ones with the World Cab that I had remembered seeing or knew of first-hand. I got a decent list and thought we could crowd-source an awfully good number more, given how bad my memory is. Just thought it might be worth a shot...

Alaskan Postals known definitely/relatively well to exist, complete with the World Cab:

1. Me
2. Revho
3. JerseyJeeps has one in NJ: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthrea...-Rebuild-Thread-USPS-CJ-8-Postal-Scrambler-94
4. The one in Seattle that keeps coming up on CL and forums for sale: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?45476-custom-postal-for-sale-on-jeepforum-com
5. the guy down in FL who's here on the forum
6. JeepAddict/Tommy's LSU painted one that sold recently, VIN: 1jcce88f9et019642 http://classiccarsmarks.com/jeep/234343-1984-jeep-scrambler-cj8-postal.html
7. Jambo has a complete one still for sale
8. the one Unlimited Offroad has for sale currently with the LS frame (if you want to count it) it's in pieces and very far from stock with a new tub. VIN: 1JCCE88F4ET019807
9. Garrett Fowler's out at 4x4Land in Topeka, I confirmed he still has it, but it's in storage in "rough" shape.
10. the one the Adams have in KS.
11. Dawn and Jody Abbot sold their sweet black one recently in GA
12. the restored MATI postal in Wasilla
13. Spankrjs/Raymond knows of a complete one that he drives by occasionally.
14. He also remembered the one on here in Hawaii, (now AZ) which I remember now as well: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?38512-Alaskan-Postal-getting-the-spa-treatment-in-Hawaii
15. AK-RWC has one, from him: "Still has the top, but I kept the doors from my parts-rig which were better. I still have a good title for it. It runs, and I even drove it this summer. I'd consider selling it. I have an MD Juan tub to put on it, but it also needs the poor-man's SOA to be returned to stock condition. It has the original bulkhead, the original USPS-spec driver's seat, and I recently picked up a mail-tray from another postal that was getting scraped."
16. Challenger/Todd in Colorado has at least one, per Chiefwaho/Jason
17. One ran with the Colorado Scramble a number of years ago with Chiefwaho/Jason, but no details, photo in post below.
18. The one somewhere here in MI that was sold by forum member Scr8 last year. http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?46559-1984-Postal-for-Sale-in-MI-8750-OBO
19. Jambo sold a 90% complete one with the World Cab to a postal contractor in Indiana, Jason Wallenzac
20. AK-RWC's friend Badco has two. One has mo title. Had an engine fire and doesn't run. http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?39894-Welcome-to-the-new-Scrambler-owner-Badco!
21. Badco's #2, from AK-RWC: "I don't think his other one has a title either, but at least it runs."
22. Wanderingone from the forum had/had one: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?44110-USPS-Surplus
23. Seller in Puyallup WA, VIN: 1JCCE88F9ET019687 http://classiccarsmarks.com/jeep/134125-2-1984-alaskan-postal-jeep-cj8-scramblers.html
24. Seller in Puyallup WA, VIN: 1JCCE88FXET019682 http://classiccarsmarks.com/jeep/134125-2-1984-alaskan-postal-jeep-cj8-scramblers.html
25. Jambo located one still in AK: VIN: 1JCCE88F4ET019807
26. Jambo located one sold in AK in 2017: VIN: 1JCCE88FXET019830
27. Shawn Rants/mudnutt has one in NM
28. From AK-RWC: Richard Harrop/Dunehammer on my Alaska CJs FB page has one, with the top. He recently pulled the engine to use as a donor for another Jeep. I don't know what he's planning on doing with the rest of it." : http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?47175-1984-Alaska-Postal
29. From AK-RWC: "There's one in Anchorage at 15th and Karluk. People have been trying to buy it for years. You can see it in Google streetview." (Photo in thread below)
30. From AK-RWC: "My friend Martha had 5: - one was kept by her ex-husband. He still has the top, but it doesn't run. He has tried selling it off-and-on; I'm pretty sure he still has it though."
31. From AK-RWC: "My friend Martha had 5...four went to my friend Dave Frank in Fairbanks. He wheels at least one of them on occasion."
32. JeepScrambler/Colby in KS has two postals with World Cabs, the white one has less than 26k original miles and runs great: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?36138-1984-Alaskan-Postal-Scrambler-Build
33. JeepScrambler/Colby in KS has two postals with World Cabs, the green one on the other hand was in worse shape; the tub has rust, the cylinder head is missing from the 258, the left rear leaf spring pack has several leaves broken, etc. making it an ideal candidate for me to build upon without to much remorse for modifying a rare Jeep: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?36138-1984-Alaskan-Postal-Scrambler-Build
34. Chris in AK mentioned above had this Postal with a World Cab set up for a 5.3 LS for sale, I believe it sold: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?47316-Alaskan-Postal-Jeep-and-5-3L-LS-Motor
35. 84CJ8AKPostal/Aaron in PA had one he was restoring: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?24578-1984-CJ8-RHD-Alaska-Postal-Scrambler
36. CJAYS/Dan in CA had one that he was restoring: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?19467-Project-Postal&p=394672#post394672
37. Andrew Schalk has a Postal (Lockport IL) and has the World Cab and doors that were sourced from the Postal that is now the blue surf-themed example without a top/doors that is currently for sale in Florida.
38. Stoney Welborn/StoneyWelborn on here had one complete: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?42283-1984-Alskan-Postal-Build-or-Sell

What the heck, while we're at it, we can do a list of the ones we know exist, but without the World Cab:

1. Jambo's with the unfortunate roof peel-back problem.
2. Dean/LOST's built orange one for sale currently in AK
3. Michael Farino's blue surf-themed postal that's up for sale and the one that made me start this list. The top/doors off of this one went on Andrew Schalk's Postal that didn't have them at the time and he sold the Jeep to Michael, who put a lot of work into restomodding it to what it is now.
4. The postal that the seller of mine had in Anchorage with the -10a half top
5. Challenger's orange one? Don't think I ever saw it with the World Cab?
6. From AK-RWC: Dakota Wills on his Alaska CJs FB page has/had three. He sold one top. (He acquired these on CL within the last year; I think these were the ones used by the Dimond Center Mall security back in the '90s.)
7. AK-RWC's parts-rig: "I sold the top and it went to Long Island with a set of doors. I have a good title for this one as well. It remains RHD, but was converted to stick. It's in really bad shape and beyond saving."
8. From AK-RWC: " There's one with a rag-top that I see driving around town on occasion. He has a full soft-top. I've never seen it with the hard-top, but the body is in reasonably good shape. He has "Going Postal" on the hood."
9. Chris from AK with the three full postals mentioned above had a half-cab bastard Postal for sale too. I believe this one sold as he told me in July this year that he had two left: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?47315-Half-cab-Postal-Scrambler-(AK)
10. Mancunian/Alastair on here has one without the top, before picture: https://goo.gl/C4AXrY

Alaskan Postals we know are gone/scrapped/parted out/etc.
1. From AK-RWC: "Travis Voetmann on the Jeep'n Alaska FB page just scrapped one last month, with the top. No engine. He was actually trying to give it away. Had I known it was going to the crusher, I would have gone to pull the top and doors, but I don't have space for another whole vehicle. RIP."
2. thecountmc from the forum listed a tub/rollbar/vin from a Postal http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthrea...b-OR-title-800-CJ10-tub-750-CJ10-top-doors-1k
3. Looks like remnants of another Postal that was parted out in Oregon: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthrea...uto-AC-stuff-soft-1-2-cab-etc-portland-oregon
4. One parted out in North Pole AK: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?23971-1984-Alaskan-Postal-CJ8
5. JerseyJeeps/Eric has "a cut up top, firewall section, both vins. I have everything technically to recreate it. It is very close in vin to the other one I recall as well."

Alaskan Postals we'd need to track down for better info:
A) The guy Chris in AK I tried to help sell three of them. He sold one, the blue one and had the other two last I heard, I emailed him to check for info. For sale thread with pics: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthrea...etups-(three-or-four)-2000-delivered-to-SE-MI

B) Dean (he's on the forum) who’s selling the built orange one without the World Cab had one other sitting in his pole barn IIRC when I was up at his place in Palmer when I met him after getting mine running. Update: he says he's owned 6 but sold them with the World Cab locally except one that went to the east coast without a drivetrain. I believe this is/was BlackForest's now here on the forum, but he's not been on in years. I confirmed that he doesn't have any others now.

C) Dean knows first-hand of two in AK that were converted to LHD but still had the World Cabs as of a few years ago.

D) Jake/IAFFCJ knows a man who volunteers at one of the stations in NOVA who has a Postal in pieces but is not sure if the top is still with it or not.

E) Jambo knew Bart Mayfield who had one, photo in thread below. He sold it after having it for 6 years without working on it. It was in AZ. Had it on here as "Postal1" and apparently it sold on eBay. Lots of photos in this thread: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?24601-1984-Jeep-CJ-8-Scrambler-Alaskan-Postal&p=178879

F) From AK-RWC: Dakota Wills on his Alaska CJs FB page had one complete that he may still have.

G) AK-RWC found one in the Caribou Hills parked at somebody's cabin a couple years ago. The top was off, but sitting in the grass next to it. The hood was up. No other info.

H) From AK-RWC: "My friend Martha had 5... The other four went to my friend Dave Frank in Fairbanks. He wheels at least one of them on occasion. I don't know what he did with the other three. Not all of them were complete or running.

I) Revho remembers one in Phoenix?

J) 38. Stoney Welborn/StoneyWelborn on here had one complete and bought a second to get parts from. He's owned 5 total and sold two, need to know what happened to the others: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?42283-1984-Alskan-Postal-Build-or-Sell

K) Ghostwave/Brett here on the forum had one in Kirkland, WA. He mentioned wanting to sell it in a thread by SoneyWelborn and I couldn't find a photo other than him removing the foam from the WC: http://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?39275-Postal-Top-Foam&highlight=

UPDATED: That's already accounting for nearly a quarter of them ever produced! Who else's am I forgetting? I can clean up this list with details if someone finds more on one of the ones I listed and I can add new ones.
 

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IAFFCJ

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There is an old man who volunteers at one of the stations here in NOVA who I know has a Postal in pieces not sure if the top is still with it or not. Gives me a reason to go see him. I’ll let ya know.
 

MrBeep

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Jason Wallenzac now ownes the #8 above from Jambo, I'm sure he has a mint one and I believe he has another one that was damaged in shipping to him. The one in Origan was shipped to central Indiana. One showed up at the IOK Swap meet from Kentucky a few years aga also. :wave:
 

bigwalton

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Jason Wallenzac now ownes the #8 above from Jambo, I'm sure he has a mint one and I believe he has another one that was damaged in shipping to him. The one in Origan was shipped to central Indiana. One showed up at the IOK Swap meet from Kentucky a few years aga also. :wave:
I messaged with Jambo about the one damaged in shipping, the roof panel of the top is toast, so it's no longer a complete WC.

Which one in Oregon that's now in Indiana?
 

spankrjs

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JeepAddict sold his Postal, complete and intact, to some guy on the east coast a few weeks back.

The one I saw at the local Air Force base is still there, still has top and doors.
 

Jambo

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This one is/was a project that was for sale in the Michigan area:

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VIN: 1JCCE88F4ET019807



Not sure if it counts as a "Postal" anymore, but the top is still complete and there.
 

bigwalton

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VIN: 1JCCE88F4ET019807

Not sure if it counts as a "Postal" anymore, but the top is still complete and there.
I have this one on the list, it's at Unlimited Offroad. Thanks for the VIN, I'll add it. Agreed that it's questionable, but we'll count it since we know where it is and I can get in touch with the new owner through my contacts there easily.
 

AJ2393

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I think this is our friend in Seattle who is owns two or three and is trying to sell one or two:

http://classiccarsmarks.com/jeep/134125-2-1984-alaskan-postal-jeep-cj8-scramblers.html

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VIN: 1JCCE88F9ET019687

VIN: 1JCCE88FXET019682
The guy who owns all these postals in the Seattle area is Stony Wellborn. He is a member of this forum. He is a really nice guy and good guy to talk with as he knows here a lot of these postals still are in Alaska. He has one he is close to finishing restoring.
 

bigwalton

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The guy who owns all these postals in the Seattle area is Stony Wellborn. He is a member of this forum. He is a really nice guy and good guy to talk with as he knows here a lot of these postals still are in Alaska. He has one he is close to finishing restoring.
Perfect, hit him up for us to get his input! :thumbsup:
 

AK-RWC

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UPDATED 11/15/17 at 10:10 AM based on a FB group I admin:

1. Mine runs, and is complete with the top and doors, and title. In Anchorage.
2. My other one has no drivetrain or top, and is nothing more than a parts vehicle at this point. It does have a title. In Anchorage.
3. Dean's postal (or at least what's left of it). In/near Anchorage.
4. The one on 15th and Karluk. In Anchorage.
5. Travis Voetmann, scratch that, Peter Firmin, crushed one last month. RIP Was in Anchorage.
6. Peter Firmin has another one in pieces, no top or doors, and is also likely to get crushed. Has title. In Anchorage.
7. The postal at the museum. In Wasilla.
8. The one that has the cut top and is rattle-canned black that has a plow rig on the front and is in pathetic condition. Was on CL recently. In Wasilla.
9. Dakota Willis has one - currently no trans, but being fixed. From a guy who sold 5 on CL last year. In Anchorage.
10. Travis Hoogland has one. From a guy who sold 5 on CL last year. In Anchorage (or maybe Seward).
11. Per Dakota, the guy who sold 5 on CL last year sent a blue one to Canada.
12. Per Dakota, the guy who sold 5 on CL last year sent the one with the cut top to Minnesota.
13. Per Dakota, the guy who sold 5 on CL last year didn't sell the 5th one, pulled the top, and crushed the rest. RIP. Was in Anchorage.
14. Per Dakota, the guy who sold 5 on CL last year didn't sell the 6th one, pulled the top, and crushed the rest. RIP. Was in Anchorage.
15. Lenard Gardiner bought the 7th one (also painted blue) from the guy who sold 5 on CL last year. He pulled the axles and t-case for his CJ-8, and is using it as a storage shed. It still has a title, along with the top and doors. In Palmer.
16. Lenard Gardiner took one to Mountain Home, ID, when he PCS'd there in '03 or '04. It had windows cut in the back "like and Overlander", and a shackle lift. He sold it in Idaho.
17. Lenard Gardiner saw one at the junkyard on Vine in Wasilla.
18. Badco has one that runs, with a title. In Anchorage.
19. Badco has a second that doesn't run, no title. In Anchorage.
20. Dunehammer has one, doesn't run, with top, and title. In Wasilla.
21. Dunehammer has a second, doesn't run, with top, no title. In Wasilla.
22. Dave Frank got Martha's three. One is built. In Fairbanks.
23. Dave Frank got Martha's three. He has another one that is being built, but low on the priority list. In Fairbanks.
24. Dave Frank got Martha's three. The third one is also being built, but is low on the priority list. In Fairbanks.


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25. There's one with a rag-top that I see driving around town on occasion. He has a full soft-top. I've never seen it with the hard-top, but the body is in reasonably good shape. He has "Going Postal" on the hood. Badco thinks this one shipped out of state last year, but I'd swear I saw it driving down 5th Avenue this summer.
26. I found one in the Caribou Hills parked at somebody's cabin a couple years ago. The top was off, but sitting in the grass next to it. The hood was up. I have no further info. Near Ninilchik.
27. Within the last 10 years, I saw one on CL that was converted into a hunting-buggy on a full-size 1-ton frame, but it still has the top and doors. The rear portion of the frame had a platform on it, and I recall the front end had been completely modified. I think it was also LHD. It was painted green. No idea on location; somewhere in AK.

I think the ones from the Jeep'n Alaska page are all now accounted for in the above list.

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Postals that I personally know of:
1. Mine. Still has the top, but I kept the doors from my parts-rig which were better. I still have a good title for it. It runs, and I even drove it this summer. I'd consider selling it. I have an MD Juan tub to put on it, but it also needs the poor-man's SOA to be returned to stock condition. It has the original bulkhead, the original USPS-spec driver's seat, and I recently picked up a mail-tray from another postal that was getting scraped.
2. My parts-rig. I sold the top and it went to Long Island with a set of doors. I have a good title for this one as well. It remains RHD, but was converted to stick. It's in really bad shape and beyond saving.
3. My buddy Badco. No title. Had an engine fire and doesn't run.
4. Badco has two. I don't think his other one has a title either, but at least it runs.
5. There's one in Anchorage at 15th and Karluk. People have been trying to buy it for years. You can see it in Google streetview.
6. There's one with a rag-top that I see driving around town on occasion. He has a full soft-top. I've never seen it with the hard-top, but the body is in reasonably good shape. He has "Going Postal" on the hood.
7. My friend Martha had 5: - one was kept by her ex-husband. He still has the top, but it doesn't run. He has tried selling it off-and-on; I'm pretty sure he still has it though.
8. The other four went to my friend Dave Frank in Fairbanks. He wheels at least one of them on occasion. I don't know what he did with the other three. Not all of them were complete or running.
9. See above.
10. See above.
11. See above.
12. Richard Harrop on my Alaska CJs FB page has one, with the top. He recently pulled the engine to use as a donor for another Jeep. I don't know what he's planning on doing with the rest of it.
13. Dakota Wills on my Alaska CJs FB page has/had three. He sold one top, and another was a complete part-out IIRC. (He acquired these on CL within the last year; I think these were the ones used by the Dimond Center Mall security back in the '90s.)
14. See above. RIP.
15. See above.
16. Travis Voetmann on the Jeep'n Alaska FB page just scrapped one last month, with the top. No engine. He was actually trying to give it away. Had I known it was going to the crusher, I would have gone to pull the top and doors, but I don't have space for another whole vehicle. RIP.
15. I found one in the Caribou Hills parked at somebody's cabin a couple years ago. The top was off, but sitting in the grass next to it. The hood was up. I have no further info.
16. And the MATI postal, of course.

There's another two or three that have popped up on the Jeep'n Alaska FB page over the last couple years, but the owners either drift off, sell the project, etc., so I haven't kept digital track of them.

I'm not counting the 15 or so that I've seen on Craiglist in the last couple 10 years. Dakota picked both of his up off CL, and I think Richard got his from CL as well. I've seen one that was converted into a hunting-buggy on a full-size GM 1-ton frame, but it still has the top and doors, and another that somebody put Scout windows in the back of. There was one that just came up on CL with a cut top that had been used as a plow truck (not in good shape). For only being 230, these things still pop up from time to time.
 
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