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CJ-10 aircraft tug conversion

RubberDuck

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Baltimore
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I may be coming into a CJ-10 diesel aircraft tug, or at least be able to buy it very cheap. I'd be interested in converting it to a true CJ-10 pickup. My question is, has anyone ever tackled this and know what on the tug is usable versus not? I know they are only 4x2 and have a super low geared transmission. My question is, can that Nissan 33SD diesel be adapted to anything else? Furthermore, is the engine even worth using since it's non-turbo?

I'm assuming both the front and rear ends would need to go as well, which wouldn't be a huge deal. Is it built essentially on a CJ-7 frame or is it its own beast?
 

Grantshire

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Richmond
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VA
Have one in the project stage and have done quite a bit of research on these. Decent engine for what it is and they run forever. Chopped Wagoneer frame so it has much more beef than CJ. Tug engines are later N/A engines than thd Scout N/A and have the proper internals to upgrade to turbo. Several build threads on Pirate from mild to extreme. Transmission choices are limited to Big Block 727 that is in it (my choice), Scout T19 (would need adapter too), Phoenix adapter to GM auto like 700R4.

I am in Richmond so send me a PM will cell number if you want to discuss.
 

AK-RWC

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south central
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Lots of people have done this. I agree that you should check out Pirate for some of the threads there. In short, you're sitting on an FSJ frame with a transfercase locked into low range. The rear is a nice beefy full-floating Dana 60. Most people seem to ditch the Nissan engine, but I've got a friend who is still running it. An FSJ front axle will bolt up, and I believe you can unlock the transfercase.
 

RubberDuck

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Baltimore
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MD
Thanks guys. Is the frame the same width as an fsj frame? Would be great if I could use a j truck bed with a stretched frame.
 

John N

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Lots of people have done this. I agree that you should check out Pirate for some of the threads there. In short, you're sitting on an FSJ frame with a transfercase locked into low range. The rear is a nice beefy full-floating Dana 60. Most people seem to ditch the Nissan engine, but I've got a friend who is still running it. An FSJ front axle will bolt up, and I believe you can unlock the transfercase.

The rear is actually a very wide Dana 70.
 

barrys

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East Norriton
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PA
Thanks guys. Is the frame the same width as an fsj frame? Would be great if I could use a j truck bed with a stretched frame.

J truck bed would be WAY to wide. CJ10a tub is same spec's as a CJ basically, width wise anyway. Check out dinoot.com, maybe use one of their trailer kits for a bed. Or modify the back half of a YJ/TJ/LJ tub to use as a bed. Find an old army trailer, a m416 or a cut down m101, both have been done. I bought a 10a 16 years ago and just sold it 2 years ago, it just sat as I bought it and then found out my township wouldn't really let me work on it in my driveway. It gave it's life to restore a true CJ10 "pickup"
 

RubberDuck

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Baltimore
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MD
Wonder if a Willys pickup bed would fit? They seem a good bit narrower.
 

bigwalton

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1x1SpeedCraig has a build thread on here for one with the diesel. There's a ton of these builds out there if you search.

When I get back to my computer I'll move this to the other CJ forum.




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bigwalton

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The wheelbase as is is VERY short for a bed, they look odd IMHO unless you stretch between the wheels.


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gaducker

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Newnan
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ga
You cant get parts for the nissian at all, pull it and put a cummins in it.
 

Polarfire

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Columbia
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MO
If the frame is a cut down Waggy frame, couldn't you just swap the cab onto a Waggy frame and then build a bed? Would the front of the frame need to be modified much to fit the tug front end?


 

gazzo

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Fremantle
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WA
Waggie frame but stretched six inches behind where it bends and you have a CJ10 chassis. Oh by the way, in MM measure bra the Waggie frame is 3.2mm (1/8") and the CJ10 frame is closer to 5mm (3/16"?) big difference.
Old thread but what the hey


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gazzo

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Fremantle
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WA
Very common motor over here :wave: What do you need?


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gazzo

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Fremantle
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WA
Hey question for you guys, I noticed on another cj10 thread that the big seat was on the left, your drivers side and the single seal on the right. Is that how all your 10a jeeps are? Makes for a comfy "me n the missus" drive but seems a bit odd. Our 60/40 splits seat in any vehicle, land cruisers, old Nissan Patrols, jeeps etc have the small seat for the driver (right). Just interested zall


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bigwalton

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Believe so. But it's not a very common seat option so not a lot of experience to go on ;) Doesn't that follow the fact that they simply made one seat for all uses, RHD/LHD? We are generally perry fat folks here I'm the US, maybe they figured it was necessary for that reason? :rotfl:
 
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