It's all fun and games till someone breaks a knuckle...

Ron84cj

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My knuckle broke while I was doing some winter wheeling. I had a spare and got it all together. But my tie rod tube bent, so now is a good time to upgrade. I read a few threads regarding this on a couple forums but nothing recent. They were from 10+ years ago. I thought I read somewhere that the rugged ridge tie rods are hard to get? I don't want to have to buy a whole kit every time a tie rod goes bad. Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Ron84cj

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Maybe I missed it on their website, but what tie rod ends do they use?
 

Spieg

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I've been told that Moog makes a TRE that will fit/replace the RR units. Sorry, no part number, but I bet if you asked around, you can find it.
 

spankrjs

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I've been told that Moog makes a TRE that will fit/replace the RR units. Sorry, no part number, but I bet if you asked around, you can find it.
They make one of them, but not the other. You need Right hand and Left Hand. Moog makes one, but not the other. I even emailed Moog, they no longer make the one side :shrug:

That's why I don't recommend the Rugged Ridge kit. The RR rod ends are crap, I wore them out in 10,000 miles. Then, you have no choice but to buy crap replacement parts from RR. When I bought all four replacement rod ends from RR, it cost me $200. Mine were till under warranty, which they proudly talk about, but they won't cover the rod ends, no matter what :shrug:

Tie rod/drag link tubes that use the stock CJ rod ends are the best way forward. Easy to get spare parts. :twocents:
 

wm69

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barrys

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Looks like you might need to call about the tirerod. I couldn't find it on his website.
 
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barrys

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To bad JKS stopped making their F1 steering setup for CJ's. I have one and it is supper beefy. Shame is it has been sitting on a 4.56'ed ARB dana 30 with a Warn hub conversion that has been in my shed waiting to be installed for over 20 years now. I can't even find any info on it online I have had it so long. Got a 44 in my 8 now and a Dynatrac 60 in the same shed so doubt it will be used anytime soon:shrug:
 
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CJ8Rockcrawler

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I've been happy with the setup from Chassis Unlimited. I have a Dana 44 front though. I can't remember if they make a setup for the 30 as well, but it is worth checking out.
 

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They make one of them, but not the other. You need Right hand and Left Hand. Moog makes one, but not the other. I even emailed Moog, they no longer make the one side :shrug:

That's why I don't recommend the Rugged Ridge kit. The RR rod ends are crap, I wore them out in 10,000 miles. Then, you have no choice but to buy crap replacement parts from RR. When I bought all four replacement rod ends from RR, it cost me $200. Mine were till under warranty, which they proudly talk about, but they won't cover the rod ends, no matter what :shrug:

Tie rod/drag link tubes that use the stock CJ rod ends are the best way forward. Easy to get spare parts. :twocents:

I've been told they are dodge durango parts. Not 100% sure that accurate though...
 

spankrjs

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I've been told they are dodge durango parts. Not 100% sure that accurate though...
Maybe so :shrug:

When I researched this last year, and contacted Moog direct, they no longer made the part :shrug:

This is what I found:

"Rugged Ridge tie rod ends use a 7/8" threaded portion, the part that threads into the tubes. Well, they advertise it as 7/8", but it is actually M22x1.5. The tapered part of the rod ends is supposedly the same as a stock Jeep CJ. Moog still makes/sells one of these rod ends, I believe the LH version. Moog used to make the RH version, but they do not anymore. I spent all day last Saturday looking through old paper parts store books for replacement RH rod ends with the spec's I needed, I could not find any. The only RH stuff I could find would have the correct tapered part spec's, but they would be attached to a drag link, or are the drag link. So, I had to order replacements from Rugged Ridge. Not the end of the world, but I do not like not being able to buy off the shelf replacement parts.

One other "issue" - looking at the spec's for the Moog LH version, on all the important tapered part stuff, it was not a 100% match for stock CJ parts. It was close, but not exact. The LH version of this rod end is the same as a 2005 TJ rod end at the pitman arm. If you compare the spec to this rod end to a stock CJ end, there are some differences. Rugged Ridge sells these rod ends a direct replacement for all their HD steering kits, i.e. Cherokees, TJ's, and CJ's. But, they are not a 100% match."
 

wm69

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Belizeit

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So I'm in for a new HD Tie Rod & Drag link to flip. Any good suggestions ? I just got off the phone with Jim Crabtree.
 

Belizeit

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So, I take it he's not selling his setup anymore?
He is. Just figured I would ask what others have used and what the results are. He is a one man operation. He will make up what I need. Has a narrow track ready to go though. Really nice guy and gave me the info I wanted. Not a lot of requests for the CJ items and hard to compete with the Chinee junk. He is going to put a price together for me
 

designerRob

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He is. Just figured I would ask what others have used and what the results are. He is a one man operation. He will make up what I need. Has a narrow track ready to go though. Really nice guy and gave me the info I wanted. Not a lot of requests for the CJ items and hard to compete with the Chinee junk. He is going to put a price together for me
Cool. I use his spring hangers. And they are stout!
 
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