What new steering box upgrades have you used recently?

muelleski

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Middleobro
State
MA
#1
I read about the H1 and ordered one on Summit after 3 months they sent me a refund and say they cant get one. Is there anything else anyone is using new that is a bolt in for an upgrade?
 

Belizeit

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City
River Ridge
State
La
#2
Maybe find an old used one from a junk yard or online and have it rebuilt. Several years back I had one for my old suburban rebuilt and worked great
 

Ron84cj

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City
West Bend
State
WI
#6
I bought my h1 steering box on rockauto.com about 4 months ago. And yes, it really does just bolt in with zero modifications. It looks like they currently have one left. Get on it!
 

walkerhoundvm

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Cave Creek
State
AZ
#7
I bought my h1 steering box on rockauto.com about 4 months ago. And yes, it really does just bolt in with zero modifications. It looks like they currently have one left. Get on it!
It fluctuates every day, and I can't make sense of how quickly they disappear and how quickly they show back up again. I checked a couple times a day and I'd get one loaded in my cart only to have it disappear. I finally got one of the Lares branded ones. I think it should bolt up but I've heard it might take some trimming.
 

Ron84cj

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West Bend
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WI
#8
The lares brand is the one that I got. Everything bolted right in for me with no trimming involved. The variable steering is great!
 

walkerhoundvm

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Cave Creek
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AZ
#9
The lares brand is the one that I got. Everything bolted right in for me with no trimming involved. The variable steering is great!
I've read they were using a non-H1 source for some of their rebuilt ones, which required a welded tab or something (i.e. they had already done the welding). :shrug:
 

sevensandeights

sevensandeights
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City
Mckean
State
PA
#10
I just bought a Lares 1230 unit from RockAuto for $200. It is listed as stock for Jeep CJs but is the "rock crawler" version compared to the 1231 part number. I live chatted with the Lares people the other day and they said the 1230 has a larger piston and case for bigger tires. It has the same dimensions as the Lares 1430 unit for the H1. The only difference is that the 1230 is 3.5-4 turns lock to lock verses the 3.5 turns for the 1430. The Lares rep said the 1430 unit does not have a variable ratio.

Plan to install mine this weekend.
 

OGRES

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Suwanee
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GA
#11
I just bought a Lares 1230 unit from RockAuto for $200. It is listed as stock for Jeep CJs but is the "rock crawler" version compared to the 1231 part number. I live chatted with the Lares people the other day and they said the 1230 has a larger piston and case for bigger tires. It has the same dimensions as the Lares 1430 unit for the H1. The only difference is that the 1230 is 3.5-4 turns lock to lock verses the 3.5 turns for the 1430. The Lares rep said the 1430 unit does not have a variable ratio.

Plan to install mine this weekend.
Do the standard hoses hook right up to this unit?

I need to do something about my steering very soon (leaky hoses) and I figured I might as well upgrade while I am at it.
 

FLCJ8

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City
Palm Bay
State
FL
#12
I just bought a Lares 1230 unit from RockAuto for $200. It is listed as stock for Jeep CJs but is the "rock crawler" version compared to the 1231 part number. I live chatted with the Lares people the other day and they said the 1230 has a larger piston and case for bigger tires. It has the same dimensions as the Lares 1430 unit for the H1. The only difference is that the 1230 is 3.5-4 turns lock to lock verses the 3.5 turns for the 1430. The Lares rep said the 1430 unit does not have a variable ratio.

Plan to install mine this weekend.
What is the plan for the core, will your old one qualify for exchange?
 

sevensandeights

sevensandeights
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City
Mckean
State
PA
#13
I can't tell you for certain because I don't have it yet but I would certainly hope so. It's listed as a stock replacement on RockAuto and the Lares rep didn't mention anything about that. The H1 and stock 1980 and up CJ should all take the same metric o-ring style hoses.
 

Ron84cj

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West Bend
State
WI
#15
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Here is my H1 box installed from rockauto. No trimming or any other drama. Bolted right in with what I had already there. As for the core, I sent in the one from my cj and they took it without giving me any grief.
 

sevensandeights

sevensandeights
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City
Mckean
State
PA
#16
Will do but the info I posted came direct from Lares. I never claimed it was an H1 box - but based on the conversation it seems like it could be. Not sure how they could get a larger piston in the OEM housing. By "stock for CJs" I simply meant it bolts in with no modifications to the mount or lines.

It will be here Friday so I'll let you know.
 

Ron84cj

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West Bend
State
WI
#17
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Here are the boxes side by side. The Piston is bigger and it definitely has the variable steer. I have the H1 lares 1430 box.
 
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