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What to do?

bdawgg

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Greenwood
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I just got a 84 scrambler and want to redo it from the bottom up....My buddy, who is a hotrod guy is gonna help me with the rebuild. I want to put a little lift and bigger tires on it. I don't know what it has now for axles...I assume it's the stock ones. If I go with a little bigger tire what axles should I use? What type of lift should I be using as well? It's not gonna be used to climb on rocks or do any serious off-road adventures...I've just always wanted one and now's my chance.

Like I said...I'm new at this so don't beat me up too bad...lol.

Here is a pic of what I have.

Thanks
 

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designerRob

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Welcome to the family. Nobody here will beat you up. Just search the forum for specific questions. You'll find lots of info.

And post lots of pictures. We love pics.
 

rubclt

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Welcome, a 2.5” lift with 32x11.50x15 is a good look and works with stock axles with a one piece rear axles and regear. Are you using the stock engine and transmission?
 

jpnmaine

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East Wilton
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ME
2.5" is just right for exploring. Recommend researching YJ leaf spring conversion and then pick your leaf poison. For me and my financial constraints, I like little projects that build on each other. Easier to tackle and gives me time to think of the next steps.
 

bdawgg

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Greenwood
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Welcome, a 2.5” lift with 32x11.50x15 is a good look and works with stock axles with a one piece rear axles and regear. Are you using the stock engine and transmission?
It's a 4.2 Reman engine, 5 speed tranny so I'm assuming again it's the T-5.

I haven't started to break anything down yet...my buddy has other work that he is doing so we are not going to start until the first of Aug.
 

Emile

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Wilsonville
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Lots to like about that ride. I've been part of this group a year and have really enjoyed the people I've meet, you will too.
 

Chamba

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Vero Beach
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FL
That is a fantastic start (as I've mentioned elsewhere though, I am fond of white Scramblers so I may be biased). Ilove the orange decals. Welcome.

If your budget allows, East Coast Great Supply sells complete, bolt-on axles. They do great work and it will make your project jump forward. I put a Dana 60 rear, 44 front with Eaton E lockers and disc brakes all around, 60.5" wide (YJ width). They come with all new steering tie rods and links. Then some Tom's drive shafts and my drive train was done with about a dozen bolts. Now she drives like a brand new car.

Interior: the Best Top seats quadratec sells are very comfy and make for a quick upgrade.

However, by far the best thing you will ever do in my opinion is to install a Painless wiring harness. It will save you countless hours of chasing electrical issues. I wish I'd done mine years ago. I was so impressed with their product.

And as Rob mentioned: pictures. Loads of pictures. The true purpose of this site is Jeep porn so post 'em up.
 

hefavitzen

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Having just put new YJ springs and new-to-me axles that I had to piece together out of three sets I'd say if you can swing it, get new axles from one of the axle companies. Axles suck to deal with, in my humble opinion. There are so many other things that you'll have to work on.

I happen to have a set of SkyJacker 2" springs that my 32x11.50's did great with. You'll need new bushings but the springs are in great shape. If I'd known more about what I was doing when I started I'd probably have gone with brand new axles and replaced the bushings in my springs. As it was, I was learning-by-doing and made some mistakes and learned a LOT.

As has been stated, you are in the right place for helpful information and seriously kind and helpful forum members. I have met only one member but they are all seriously knowledgeable folks and willing to share information. Might even have a part or two to sell that you may need.
 

Randyzzz

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Looks nice! Welcome! For moderate use with stock powertrain and 31-32” tires, the 2.5” lift with Wrangler springs looks nice. You can see pics of mine, under construction, in my build thread.
 

bdawgg

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Greenwood
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MO
Actually thinking about doing an LS swap now...what are you all's thoughts on that? What axles, transmission would be good with that? Dana 60 & 44? T18...AX15? Thoughts?

We just started to blow it apart and my buddy says do an LS swap....but want to get some other thoughts on this.

Thanks for the help!
 

Chamba

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I've got the fuel injected 351W, AX15, dana 300 going to Dana 60 rear and 44 front. I'm very happy with the whole setup but if i didn't have the 351W already, the LS is the way I would have gone.

The AX15 is a nice box and seems really well suited to the nearly 300 horse I'm putting through it. I run 3:73 gears but only 33s and it is a great all- rounder. If I did more serious wheeling like years ago I'd go with 4.11.
 

Randyzzz

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I’m a big fan of the LS platform. Can’t be beat in the “bang for the buck” department- and they fit great. For your intended use even a 4.8 would be plenty. A 5.3 would feel awesome too. Trans- I was going with a NV3550 as I like a bit more close ratio/faster shifting transmission, but ended up going automatic. AX15 is a decent choice too. Either of these transmissions will shift more like a sports car than a heavy truck. I personally think shifting a T18 or even a NV4500 would feel fatiguing after a while. In an ideal situation a D44 front and rear would be perfect for just about anything and up to 35” tires, but the stock D30 front will hold up if you’re not too hard on it and keep in the 31-33” tire range. I’ve never been a fan of the Model 20 rear- I’d get a D44 or maybe a 9”. The rear will take the most daily abuse, the front will only be engaged when the going gets rough and you’re going slow. But- as the project expenses keep piling up, sticking with the rear 20 and adding 1 piece axles isn’t a bad choice.

You can get a lot of ideas from my current build thread if you want.
 

bdawgg

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Greenwood
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Thanks for all the input...it has been very helpful!!!

Is there a 'go to' place where you all get your parts....bolt pkgs, metal, accessories, etc ?
 
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sdsupilot

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OKC
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OK
It really depends on your long term goals. Then deciding your level of wheeling. The requirements for a stock I6 and 31s vs an LS and 37s are very different. A Dana 44 front/60 rear will grow with you and your wheeling adventures to a 35-37" tire (with reasonable driving). 37-40" plus is 60 front/14 bolt rear territory. Driving style also plays a big part on potential failure points.

If it were me.... I would get a cable throttle body 5.3 with a 4l60E. I would then use either a SYE NP241C (use one in mine) or an atlas. Those transfer case options help you clear the trans pan with the front driveshaft. I would then go with a 44 front then either a Dana 489 (JK dana 44), 9 inch or Dana 60 for the rear.
 

Randyzzz

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Wow! Didn’t waste any time there. What powertrain did you decide on?
 

certifiablejeep

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Bedford
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NH
Holy smokes! What does one in that condition go for up where you are?
In order to fix this "the right way", it is over $3K in metal from a couple different vendors w/shipping.
It is a tough call as there aren't many left, but at the same time the aftermarket ones aren't great and now you can't even get them without huge delays in shipping, not to mention cost.

cb
 
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