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Giving it a Jolt

bigwalton said:
LOL. you're not thinking hard enough if you don't still have those worries over what's left in the Jeep. If it were me, I'd be watching for the electrical fire caused by something I did wrong, just like with an ICE :rotfl:

The silence is freaking weird though and I get what you're saying
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Nope, none of the above, not at all.

Especially fire - sure as heck worried about that more then when it was filled with a highly flammable liquid sloshing around then pressurized and shot into a fire-hot chamber to explode - a LOT less worry, as in not at all.

NOW, let's get honest - the primary reason for my COMPLETE lack of worry is, of course, due to ZERO failures thus far. (or at least none that are real issues - yet)

I can't fear what I don't know is coming.

Sure, I'm romanticizing these early days of worry-free driving - I fully concede that.

I'm astutely aware that there are things I don't know that perhaps should worry me - for sure.

BUT, is that really a thing?

Okay, so hear me out - I know there's soooo much added baggage that tags along with all things EV in this country right now, things that are out of my control and frankly, much of it fear mongering.

So I ask, fully conscious of how supportive YOU have been and this site (for the most part) as well, if I did an ICE to ICE motor swap, would you worry about any of that, would you ask 'did you remember to make sure the fuel rail has a clean clearing valve on it so it won't spray you with fuel and catch you on fire?' - no, you would never even think to ask that BECAUSE we, all of us, we already know about gas and for the most part, we understand it and where it can go horribly wrong.

But, for this, this unknown entity I speak so fondly of, it's ALL UNKNOWNs - and that's what driving most of the fear questions.

TRUST me, I have to stop the never ending list of what could go wrong that's on a repeat loop in my head every time I jump in my Jeep.

Did I forget to torque down the 8mm (+) lug on Pack 5 in the back when I was inspecting it, could it arch causing something horrible but unknown to me to happen and make the planet spin backwards, over and over in my head. Never ends.

Long reply longer: yes, I worry, but it subsides, I do the best I can, I record everything and I try to learn from my early mistakes. Lastly, I tamp down my feeling of dread at the unknown - that one's hard.

I LOVE these questions. Part of me believes that MOST if not ALL of these general fears could go out the window if / when you guys get behind the wheel of an EV Jeep.

It's that much better, really-really!
 
bigwalton said:
LOL. you're not thinking hard enough if you don't still have those worries over what's left in the Jeep. If it were me, I'd be watching for the electrical fire caused by something I did wrong, just like with an ICE :rotfl:

The silence is freaking weird though and I get what you're saying
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One more thing, the silence has a down side - you can hear EVERY single body movement and squeak and jingle and rub and noise - ALL previously masked by the normal drone of an ICE motor doing it's thing.

EVERY SINGLE little noise you can hear.

If my business plan is successful and I can be part of the repowering of off-road, I promise, the various parts vendors need to pay attention and start selling body stiffening this-or-that to make it even more silent running.

I love it.
 
LOL. ABSOFRIGGINLOUTELY!!!!

That was my whole point. I worry about things that aren’t fuel related that you still have too. This was not an EV rant, this was a joke about old Jeeps and my lack of confidence in my own abilities :rotfl:

You got defensive for nothing!
 
I should mention, once you have an EVC Jeep and it's running and all that good stuff, your mind wonders as every Jeep owners maker-mind does, to things that might be nice, like a breeze blowing on my foot box area when I driving. You think: I could pipe in air to make it even cooler down there.

Sure would be nice to have a vented firewall but that would be crazy for obvious reasons....

THEN it dawns on you - you don't really need a 'firewall' to keep out everything in the engine bay any more - you can now pierce the firewall to make active vents, if you so desired.

All of a sudden, the 'firewall' becomes structural rather then strictly for fire hazard. No engine off gasses, exhaust, HEAT, HEAT, HEAT, fuel, whatever - none of that.

The mind fills with new possibilities...
 
bigwalton said:
LOL. ABSOFRIGGINLOUTELY!!!!

That was my whole point. I worry about things that aren’t fuel related that you still have too. This was not an EV rant, this was a joke about old Jeeps and my lack of confidence in my own abilities :rotfl:

You got defensive for nothing!
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Sorry, knee-jerk (emphasis on the 'jerk' part).

You nailed it - 100%, what did I do wrong that will cause X to happen. That's it, my greatest worry, where did I fug up.
 
Slightly off topic, how do I 'Like' stuff:
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Do I have to attain a certain status level first - must be, right?
 
4x4 EVC said:
Sorry, knee-jerk (emphasis on the 'jerk' part).

You nailed it - 100%, what did I do wrong that will cause X to happen. That's it, my greatest worry, where did I fug up.
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I still dont drive mine in the rain. Had to move it the other day when it started raining and I took a deep breath before I turn in the ignition.
 
4x4 EVC said:
Slightly off topic, how do I 'Like' stuff:
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Do I have to attain a certain status level first - must be, right?
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That's a paid member benefit. We don't cripple the site with ads, but we reserve some of the nicer things (like adding more than one photo per post) for paid supporters.
 
I have ridden in a few electric and hybrid cars. I was actually surprised at all the noise. Sure it’s quieter than my open Jeep. But anything that has tires and rolls down the roads around here are even noisy inside an enclosed car. That was unexpected since what I had heard was how quiet they were. Guess I was expecting something like silence in my living room with everyone gone and the tv off. :shrug: I have to admit they can take off like a rocket. Nice job on the electric Scrambler
 
timo439 said:
I still dont drive mine in the rain. Had to move it the other day when it started raining and I took a deep breath before I turn in the ignition.
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No me Man, I'm going to ford streams in this bad boy.

The rear Battery Box is designed to be IP66 - water proof with spraying water. The other boxes are IP5-ish.

That's one of the HUGE differences between DIY and ready for production (I'm not, not yet anyway), I'm not scrapping it into my Jeep, I'm building modules to be added to the Jeep, bolted in, as if factory made.

MANY, if not all EVCs are made that way, just put a battery here, or there, weld something to the fender or frame to hold it in for now, figure it out later. NOPE, not sustainable, not viable.

To make this a true kit, even for installers, it's got to be modular from the jump.
 
Belizeit said:
I have ridden in a few electric and hybrid cars. I was actually surprised at all the noise. Sure it’s quieter than my open Jeep. But anything that has tires and rolls down the roads around here are even noisy inside an enclosed car. That was unexpected since what I had heard was how quiet they were. Guess I was expecting something like silence in my living room with everyone gone and the tv off. :shrug: I have to admit they can take off like a rocket. Nice job on the electric Scrambler
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Sorry, to be clear, I'm a CJ-7 man, just a visitor in this strange land of elongated CJ's.

Regarding the noise - it's crazy how much our old-ass motors conceal all the rattling and such that's going on - now, I can hear every little thing.

And yes, when I say it's silent, I don't mean like your living room. I mean more like a golf cart driving on grass. At speed, it's just the sound of the wind rushing by.

BUT, I'll take the compliment nonetheless - THANKS!
 
bigwalton said:
That's a paid member benefit. We don't cripple the site with ads, but we reserve some of the nicer things (like adding more than one photo per post) for paid supporters.
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Roger-roger - makes sense.

I'll look into becoming a paid member now - thanks!
 
And fire up your own build thread here, not a problem that it’s not a Scrambler. We don’t need to keep hijacking his ;)
 
You’re welcome, just want to keep subjects separated when needed! :thumbsup:
 
bigwalton said:
LOL. you're not thinking hard enough if you don't still have those worries over what's left in the Jeep. If it were me, I'd be watching for the electrical fire caused by something I did wrong, just like with an ICE :rotfl:

The silence is freaking weird though and I get what you're saying
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Thought about this for a bit more - it's funny but, I'm now sniffing for problems rather than listening.

Meaning, burning wires and the like.

Nothing yet but I did find something on the teardown I'm doing now to deal with the 5 pages of post-PoC-drive ToDo List (PoC = Proof of Concept):
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Not good.

I suspect, it's due to the cables being the wrong size, these are 1/0 when everything else is 2/0 (70mm2 < the new way of referring to cable sizes).

I'll switch these out and see what explodes then....

So, sniffing rather then listening.
 
@timo439 - Tim, I just finished reading through your original build posts in this thread.

I'm blown away how we both came to basically the same overall design without comparing notes or knowing each other!!

AND, I know I'm late here but, your build is great! It's so funny how similar they are, all the way down to your motor mount system.

I think you know I ditched the bellhousing and all it's innards but the motor mount is basically the same, I left a lot of room for the front drive shaft, can't have that smacking stuff around:
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With the motor mounted.
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Yes, its all pretty close. I think mine was less engineering and more trial and error but I love it. I fixed some rattles (forgot to tighten all the 12v battery bracket bolts and loose rear benches due to crushed foot rubber on the rear seats) and have been driving it a lot. Getting cold here so into the garage soon. Goal is to get the rear battery box in over the winter and hopefully get 80-90 mile range afterwards (~2mile/KWH). Not bad for a home build and a jeep profile akin to a mobile air brake.
 
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