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Jeep cj7 83 right hand drive 4x4 5 sp british export - part II

Horns aren't being horny enough

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I got one to work last night and one is so corroded, it just makes a slight groan... will get it figured out tonight, I want to get that steering wheel on and locked down for good soon.

cb
 
Ticky tack stuff. Reverse lights finally working but no brakes yet. 2 steps forward

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All blinkers are working now. Just the brakes aren't for all the outside electrical. After that is the gauges inside

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How much do you lack of being "done" (we all know there is no "done" with a Jeep)
 
well, exhaust and the windshield are the 2 major obstacles... if I get those done and brakes, it is a runner/driver... have to buff it out and add graphics.
Then it is small stuff... a few small things to paint, etc

It will be done enough to put away for winter unfortunately.

cb
 
certifiablejeep said:
well, exhaust and the windshield are the 2 major obstacles... if I get those done and brakes, it is a runner/driver... have to buff it out and add graphics.
Then it is small stuff... a few small things to paint, etc

It will be done enough to put away for winter unfortunately.

cb
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Do you plan to wet sand it before you buff it?
 
Yeah, the sides are already done... just really the hood to go... tailgate, a few other spots.

cb
 
So, ripped out the brake light switch, was convinced it was that, jumper ed it and still the turn signals are on.
Did some moving around of wires and things started to not work again... thinking grounds.
Then I checked the steering column and the connector to the turn signal switch is making lights go on and off and different ones.
This supposedly is brand new but is acting very poorly.
Did some reading and a lot of people had the same issue, replaced it and it was good... that or grounds as the brakes and turn signal supposedly are on the same circuit and following the path of least resistance, will go to the turn signals first... again, all this is what I read, but I do know the connector on the column was not good... it wouldn't mate up tot he painless one nicely.

I then remembered I got rid of the original steering column and replaced it with the tilt one and when I was fiddling with the horn, I could have done something to the turn signal switch, so broke down and ordered one and will replace it and see what is what.

A bit frustrating after 3 hours to not have anything accomplished and more things torn down then up, but I do need brake lights.

cb
 
For the love of everything holy. Now the brakes work. Just have to bolt it back together

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What was the problem? Are they different tail lights. Pics look like different tail lights. Glad they work, another step toward having her on the road.
 
If you could care less CB you could rotate your spare to the left than ALL TERRAIN would be across the top all nice and even.
 
I like to have the valve stem at 6 o'clock. But asking the tire dude to align the letters of the tire , u either gonna get some weird looks, or tip him good ;)
 
jammer1 said:
What was the problem? Are they different tail lights. Pics look like different tail lights. Glad they work, another step toward having her on the road.
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Well, a culmination of issues that led to them finally working.
Basic problem solving 101... have enough time, remember all the things that came before, what the differences are... get a blender, put them in, mix them up.... kick yourself in the head a few times and then it is solved.

1) Different steering column... went to a tilt, someone rebuilt it before me. The turn signal switch end would not "snap into" the one on the painless kit. I got a new one.
2) Prior to this, I thought it was the brake switch... went out to my 4-5 extra assemblies and believe it or not, not a single one had a brake light switch... checked old harnesses, same thing... ordered a new one... this was not the issue.
3) The wires that go to the brake light switch had been hacked... in fact, the whole harness was... remember this was a RHD setup, so a LHD painless kit didn't have the lengths in some areas... the solder joint on one side of the connection was great, the other side, well it wasn't as good. I cut it out and put a jumper wire in there and it was better, but still showing taillights in the blinkers.
4) Grounding is an issue with all rear lights... it especially is bad when someone has swapped colors. The pink wire coming out of hte brake switch was 12v, however, when measured, it was like .5v... so searching and cutting open the whole PO added lengthening cable to get tot he rear I found the pink/black to be switched.

Nothing really bothers me day to day... only stupid people and really stupid solutions. Using a black wire for 12v HOT is just something I can't comprehend ever doing.

It was at this moment that I had a flashback to when I got the Jeep.
The rear wiring was a mess, so I used a trailer plug to get the necessary wires from the left hand brake light assembly to the right side. I was able to wrap it in tape and just push it through the loom on the old tub.
I never looked at the actual wiring, I just measured voltage and adapted the new harness to it... so I never noticed what was ground and what was hot, just when the blinkers are on... this wire(s) same with brakes, and reverse.

So, you rip it all out and put it in a new tub, well, thing start not to work and you know it worked before, it can't be too many things, you just have to remember what has changed... and some things had.

I then stumbled upon one last piece of the puzzle and that was a wire tucked into the look that had been cut... PINK!
So, that wire was still connected to HOT, but the end was cut and stripped, so the copper was inside the loom mostly, but was poking out and rubbing near the tranny tunnel was I don't have it tucked up and away... somewhat dangerous and very difficult to find your grounding situation.

I have seen a couple of those type of things with this wiring... it "worked" before, but I think it was all just in the perfect position and nothing was touching what it wasn't supposed to be.

I will fix it all up, just annoying to waste this much time (and money) chasing gremlines that are a result of pure laziness and using "what you got" to get it done.
Take the time, go out and buy some other colored wire than black, it will trigger someone quick that something isn't right!

I just had 3 cups of coffee... can you tell?

cb
 
gazzo said:
If you could care less CB you could rotate your spare to the left than ALL TERRAIN would be across the top all nice and even.
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The next time I take it off I will do it... I have a lot more things to get to, like the exhaust next and getting the windshield in... OH, and the FREAKING BRAKE SWITCH... on a LHD, you reach up with your right hand and you are good... doing this on the opposite side with opposite hands gave me some fits last night... the BS is in place, I just need to figure out how to screw it in with a hand that doesn't work in that configuration... if you could have seen me all twisted up trying to use my right hand whiilst lying on my back on the rockers... quite a sight. I gave up and had a couple beers to celebrate figuring it out, but still there is work to be done.

cb
 
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