New guy with and interesting find (Overlander Build)

[Buffy]

Here are the requested pictures:

The rear barn door inner panel ( I am not sure if this carpet is original as it is a different color from the front. If it isn't, whoever did it did an outstanding job on the fit.)

From the inside, the rear vent window closed and the side glass.

The outside of Jeep with the side door closed. To show where the door glass and top glass line up.

Also, the dimensions of the rear vent window and side glass .
The best I can tell is both the vent glass and side glass are not perfectly square but get wider at the bottom. Height wise the vent glass is 19 9/16" tall and 7 7/8" wide at the middle. The side glass measured at the middle of the seal 44 5/8" wide.

I just realized today that my Jeep does not have a roll bar in it. After checking where it would bolt it appears there never was one installed.

The other thing I remember reading is all CJ-8s had manual locking hubs. My Jeep has auto hubs on it.

The more learn about my Jeep the more confused about it I get. Really wondering what I have here.

 

[walkerhoundvm]

Really wondering what I have here.

I thought we've been through this already: an historical treasure. AMC and the PO had something very special in mind when they put this one together.

No roll bars = no rusted roll bar mounts! Consider yourself lucky!

 

[Jeep Addict]

Thanks for the pictures and measurements. The postal tops have the indentations form where the windows would have been. I can compare your pics to my sides.

I think I remember an old post about the Overlanders that had troop seats like yours not having a rollbar to accomidate the troop seats. My memory may serve me wrong. Not the first time...

 

[bigwalton]

Thanks for the pictures and measurements. The postal tops have the indentations form where the windows would have been. I can compare your pics to my sides.

I think I remember an old post about the Overlanders that had troop seats like yours not having a rollbar to accomidate the troop seats. My memory may serve me wrong. Not the first time...

bingo, troop seats require no rollbar.

is that side wall single or double walled? looks different than mine i think.

 

[jims chop shop]

Check out the lap belt,non retractable !!!

 

[Buffy]

bingo, troop seats require no rollbar.

is that side wall single or double walled? looks different than mine i think.

It is double walled.

Jeep Addict:

I did some more measurements for you. My measurements my be off a sixteenth or two as I am measuring from the outside of the seal. I tried to get to the widest and narrowest points before the glass curved. Widest looked to be 45 5/16" and narrowest 44". Let me know if I can provide any more measurements or pictures.

 

[CJ8LVR]

The doors are strange too. Eric, yours like that? They're not curved in the top back corners like on the standard CJ-7 and CJ-8 doors. They're "pointy".

 

[Buffy]

The pointy doors are unique to the steel hard top.

I finally did a CarFax on my VIN today. It wasn't originally titled until 12/24/86 makes me wonder what the VIN number was for the last CJ-8 made.

 

[Manhattan]

Anyone else find it odd that troop seats = roll bar delete? Can you imagine that conversation:
Engineer: We're adding seating capacity so we're taking out the roll bar
Management: So, more people and no roll bar
Engineer: Yeah, we needed the space the roll bar occupies for the seats. So, we just eliminated the roll bar
Managers: That the best you could do son?
Engineer: Yes sir. Oh, and it saved $12 in steel
Manager: Welcome to AMC son. You'll do just fine here... just fine.

 

[bigwalton]

Anyone else find it odd that troop seats = roll bar delete? Can you imagine that conversation:
Engineer: We're adding seating capacity so we're taking out the roll bar
Management: So, more people and no roll bar
Engineer: Yeah, we needed the space the roll bar occupies for the seats. So, we just eliminated the roll bar
Managers: That the best you could do son?
Engineer: Yes sir. Oh, and it saved $12 in steel
Manager: Welcome to AMC son. You'll do just fine here... just fine.

Not with a full metal hard top (anything with troop seats had to have the World Cab). Just like a Grand Wagoneer at that point basically, no rollbar option there either, so no big deal.

Yeah Jake, all world cabs are angled corner doors, that's why the doors and glass are so hard to come by. Just the Postals and CJ-10a airplane tugs in the US except for imported Overlanders like this.

On the side panels, that window looks much larger than the opening in mine, but I couldn't say for sure unless I dug them out and measured. Might be a visual illusion. Maybe tomorrow I'll do that unless someone else beats me to it.

 

[Jeep Addict]

On the side panels, that window looks much larger than the opening in mine, but I couldn't say for sure unless I dug them out and measured. Might be a visual illusion. Maybe tomorrow I'll do that unless someone else beats me to it.[/QUOTE]

I'll try to measure mine tomorrow as well.

I think jscherb may have mentioned somewhere that the world cab glass was the largest "cutout" on the postal sides.

This is why I asked Buffy for the measurements. Very glad to have him here

 

[Buffy]

Glad to be of service!

 

[Orionn]

Anyone else find it odd that troop seats = roll bar delete? Can you imagine that conversation:
Engineer: We're adding seating capacity so we're taking out the roll bar
Management: So, more people and no roll bar
Engineer: Yeah, we needed the space the roll bar occupies for the seats. So, we just eliminated the roll bar
Managers: That the best you could do son?
Engineer: Yes sir. Oh, and it saved $12 in steel
Manager: Welcome to AMC son. You'll do just fine here... just fine.

After working in the Auto industry now for 22+ years (in desgn)....that 'fictional' conversation may be more true than you belive...I have seen some REALLY stupid things done to save 1/2 of a penny per vehicle.

Man, the more pictures I see of that Jeep, I cannot belive what you have there.
I belive it warrents alot of investigation into its history and such.

Please keep us informed on what yo find.

 

[Polarfire]

Any update on the Jeep?

 

[RedRaider43]

Coolest Jeep Ever!

Is it wrong that I check these pictures out ALL THE TIME? I catch myself imagining what that Jeep would look like cruising down River Road in New Braunfels Texas. I do not think I have ever been this jealous before in my life.

 

[Buffy]

It is safe in my garage. I am saving my pennies to get the motor installed. I have in interior all cleaned up it it looks great. I can't wait to get this puppy on the road!

New Braunfels.... now that brings back memories... I used to live in the Hill Country. Texas is home and I sure do miss it.

 

[tower210]

Buffy the pictures from "first daylight" are missing now. Did you pull them down?

Nice ride, love the idea of the 4BT. What kind of trucks did these come in from the factory?

 

[amcjeepman]

Wow, I just realized that you are in Burlington, NC. I'm in Reidsville and would dearly love to come see that in person. Do you ever go to NC4X4? Pretty good local NC 4x4 related bulliten board.

 

[Buffy]

Buffy the pictures from "first daylight" are missing now. Did you pull them down?

Nice ride, love the idea of the 4BT. What kind of trucks did these come in from the factory?

I just scrolled through looking for the pictures and they are all still there. I have them posted on my super motors account. There are more pictures there than I posted here.]

The 4BT motors were installed in bread delivery and other commercial type vehicles. I read where alot of these swap threads start with a bread truck purchase.

Unfortunately it will be slow going to get this project started. I do not have welders, etc to do the work in my garage so I will be having the project outsourced to the professionals because I want this to look factory. When this project takes off it will be completed in about a week so when I does start, hang on! I think I will take a week off from work and watch the transformation take place and, to pay respects to BigWalton, take TONS of pictures. Posted daily of course.

 

[tower210]

cool

They finally showed up....when I looked the first time it just had Super Pic or whatever logo in place of the pictures. Too cool!! It's so nice i would almost be afraid to drive it (cause I know where I want to drive it).

kk