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Project Panel Replacement

Love the wall art everywhere
 
Teardown continues... Got the back half off with a lot of fun dissasembly.

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The frame is bad... couldn't be saved and I don't sell parts that are dangerous...
Look at the wall thickness when stuff rusts from the inside out.

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Also, where the rear shackles were mounted, the 2 bolts that hold it to the frame were snapped, so a handy tab was put on with a carriage bolt and then welded on top of that. It really did work well, but getting it apart took way too much time.

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All in all, the drivetrain is close to coming out, I hope to get to that this week.

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The springs (no picture) were cracked in the rear as well by the ubolts... this thing I thought had more good usable/sellable parts, but all in all, the frame is a waste, as are the springs.

At this point, I just want to get it taken apart, scrap what I have to and move onto the "construction" phase.

cb
 
Had to go back and look at the original picture of this project Jeep before disassembly. No way I would have guessed the frame tubing wall thickness was that thin, at least not looking from the outside. Buying old Jeeps now I guess is like gambling. I know way too many people buying Jeeps sight unseen, and pictures of this frame remind me why that is is a potentially foolish, if not dangerous, idea.
 
AJ2393 said:
Had to go back and look at the original picture of this project Jeep before disassembly. No way I would have guessed the frame tubing wall thickness was that thin, at least not looking from the outside. Buying old Jeeps now I guess is like gambling. I know way too many people buying Jeeps sight unseen, and pictures of this frame remind me why that is is a potentially foolish, if not dangerous, idea.
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Yeah, overall it was/is a bit disappointing... small things taht I thought I would sell off to help recoup cost are just junk.
Each spring so far has an issue... either broken or bent... even the shackles have issues being twisted/tweaked.

At this point, I just want to get it torn down and start fresh with nice clean parts.
However, getting anything right now seems to be quite delayed... so we see how it goes.

cb
 
Well I have to say, you learn something new everyday if you are lucky.
Today I learned it is fortunate to be lucky in dangerous situations.
I normally pull the transfer case, then the transmission, then the engine.
I do this after hooking up the engine sling (for the transmission/engine).
Due to the fact that this frame was so rusty and the transmission is going to the same guy that the engine is, I was like... let's pull it together and get rid of the frame.

What I never expected was that the engine mount was broken... and not just one of them... both!

So, this was a change your shorts type of a moment.
I hooked up the sling... took a bit of tension off of the frame by jacking up the engine and then zipped out the passenger side engine mounts and the whole thing shifted towards me... frame slipped on the jack stands and the engine/trans ended up hanging on the engine hoist, but only held in place by the driver side engine strap...
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The engine mounts were rusted through (gotta love the salt up here) and really the only thing holding this engine in place was the trans mount (which I had zipped off the 2 bolts)... torque mount wasn't really in play here.

So yeah... I learned something new.
Apparently both engine mounts can be rusted through and you might not know.


As for the frame... again, there is just tons of debris/rust coming out of this thing.
This thing was toasted.
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I have probably taken a full 50 gallon garbase can full of rust/debris off my garage floor since the tear down.

cb
 
Glad everything turned out well after your surprise.
 
Overall no blood on that endeavour, just keep replaying it in my mind as to how even when you are ultra conservative and think you have dotted all the "i's" and crossed all the "t's" there is something that can always happen.

It has been that kind of week I suppose... but in the end, all is back to normal.

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I really pushed my self to get the 2 Jeeps torn down and make space so I can get back to the Scrambler tub in the coming weeks while I wait for a frame to appear :)

Here is what needs to be scrapped...

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Gas tank was yet another one of those things that I wanted to use in another project, but it has a hole in the bottom of the skid, and ultimately it sat with bad gas for so long it wore thing in one of the corners... just better/safer to find another one.

All in all, I am sore, but I made the goal of having the tub back on the block for more panel replacement.

cb
 
I've see more than my share of safety presentations and films. Usually when you are prepared, the chance of getting hurts is fairly small. But poo poo can happen anyway. Always better to be lucky,
 
Yeah, I definitely lucked out with the engine fail... however, I have issues in other areas of my life, so I guess it all balances out :)

I had 1 hour yesterday, so with the motto of "get something done, no matter how small", I present filler panels in place for welding the next time I get time.

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cb
 
not much on the body, but parts are starting to roll in (still waiting on the frame), so went out and picked up the 1986 axles (dana 44).
The good news... 3.54 axles and pretty clean.

The bad... well, someone flipped the mounts for SOA, so that has to go back to SUA.
They didn't do a good job and really cut into the tube to remove one of the fronts.
I have another housing I might end up using, I have to see.

Also the crazy drop on the pitman arm link.

So, I found some perches, but no where near stock.
Apparently finding D30 stock perches is the new Americana Floor mats... none to be had.

I will pick away at it this week. I want to flip the tie rod and drag links for clearance as I have done in some other axles.
And I want to put 1 ton parts on it.

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cb
 
Rusty parts and frustrating removal, but all good... could be a lot worse, I could not be able to do it.

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Using all the separators I have :)

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cb
 
BTW, this new cart is coming in handy for everything I do... it is a nice height, can support a ton of weight and I can move it anywhere... 2 thumbs up.

cb
 
designerRob said:
I doubt many people deal with more rust than you. You should write a book on it. 🍻
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It is just a product of where you live, so you adapt.
However, that said... I do have tricks... like these 2 spindle nuts that I keep just for this purpose.
The spindles are usually seized to the knuckles... badly... so I thread on 2 very old ones and hammer on those up/down/left/right and that helps to break it loose from the spindle... and then you move onto the wedges and do a little at a time.

Afterwards, it comes off and your arms have quite the workout 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

cb
 
2 nuts fully threaded on and then whack N/S/E/W on the nuts with a BFH.
it then starts to crack the seat.
Put in a small shim/wedge and repeat... then step up to larger pieces and eventually it works itself off.

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Those 2 nuts together can withstand a pounding.

cb
 
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