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Expedition Scrambler..?

Ugly duckling

Very nice.......Now who could call that ugly:bow:Looks like he had a good time building that one :smokin:
 
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seeing that commando with a slide n pop up I recall that 4 wheel pop up campers (some derivative of that name) out of Longmont CO (or somewhere around Denver) used to offer one like that for early blazers, broncos, scoutIIs, etc. Those pics look very much like their campers.

I believe they are still in business, in fact one of the threads in the jeep forum on expedition portal had one of their pop up shell campers that the poster was doing the interior on. Might be worth a look.
 
4wheel campers

Yes, 4 wheel campers is still alive and well. They are pricey but so are all new campers. The only problem is, like all companies, it has to feed a product that will reach the widest group of people and therefore makes money. Much like Jsherb and his modular hard top...we have a very unusual vehicl with, realistically, a very small number of owners. So any camper like the one for the commando or a scrambler woud truly be a "one off" or very very limited number. And it would be very VERY expensive! Does that mean that I don't want one..? Heck no!! I would love something like that. But since they are not really gonna start showing up on CL anytime soon...not much chance that I will have one.:(
 
Great idea for a thread. And some awsome FC's. If I'm not mistaken, the lighter duty FC was based on the CJ, with much of the drivetrain being the same. Neat vehicles, but as I uanderstand, they did tend to be somewhat tippy when going down steep slopes. Back to the Scrambler side of it. Like trust I plan on using my Scrambler for multi-day camping trips using a good tent and other lighter weight camping equipment. After trying to use a CJ5 for such trips, and being a devote of Jeep CJ's, I located my Scrambler which is now in the build process for this. One thing that I do plan on is doing a dual battery setup and auxiliary solar charger so that I can run our Engle (like an ARB) 12 volt refridigerator. No more soggy sandwich meat and cheese. And good cold beer! What I would like to see are some ideas on oversize gas tanks, storage options, etc that would help make the Scrambler better suited for extended forays into the outback. Keep the ideas coming!
 
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I just have to interject here that this thread is absolutely cracking me up!

:popcorn: :rotfl:

Keep it up fellers. Good stuff!
 
Fc dual cab

jeepdreamer said:
Ok, I have to admit that I am a closet fan of FCs. They are one of the ugliest of all things vehicular. I can only think of a small number of uglier examples. But being by nature a Jeep I think that leaves room for exception. An excuse to be ugly, if you will...? But somewhere within their ugliness a true beauty shines through. And with FCs, beauty truly IS in the eye of the beer holder! Take this example for one...Most would gasp and schriek as they clutched their children as if the zombie hordes were invading. Me? I like it. Kinda like Mad Max's bigger brother.!.
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I do not have a lot of experience with the FC Jeep but the photo of the black FC is very cool.

Did the FC come like the with dual cab or was that FC chopped and extended?

If she came in a dual cab - does anyone have more profile photos along with more int and exterior shots.

I passed my driving test in a LandRover 101 FC so I see a resemblance - That dual cab Jeep FC is the ticket though.

Thanks,
Wayne.
 
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Hmmm...seeing as I'm a VW Bus guy too, may I submit this FC variation-

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Here's an interesting one...

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Holy Schnikies!!!!

Uh...wow! So Jeep did get around to making that FC Breadbox truck!!??!! Seems like they shouldn't have used an actual "Bread box" for design cues!???!:rolleyes:
And as far as the 4 door black FC, it is like so many of the coolest jeeps, a military offering. I can't remember off the top of my head what it is called but I bet it starts with an "M"...:D And it was a factory built creation. Would be very hard to find and were one to not "fully restore it to military specs" you could likely expect a little late night visit from the MVP (military vehicle preservation) guys...wearing camo sheets and burning illum flares in your yard...HA!
So where am I in relation to this specific Expo-Scram...? In this case it seems one step forward and Two back! And even though it is all still just on paper I find myself getting frusterated. Seems the inital phase of building, the gathering of parts, is off to a rocky start Rubicon Express has had issues with their Canadaniananinananinananinananin spring maker and it has put them behind on orders. So until that gets fixed, if it hasn't already, the lift portion is on hold. I've also had difficulties communicating with folks stateside since my only real means is via internet. Some vendors either don't use it or rarely check it as the responses and inquireies have been few and far between. Some folks don't even bother to respond to their own emails!?!
Add to that the occasional...um, opinions...one manufacturer or vendor has about another and the waters become muddy quickly. All this makes it really hard to even select parts. So I may have to just save the money and hope that I can afford to buy what is needed in a quick enough time to get it bolted or welded together in the shortest time possible... The thing that gets my goat baaaaad is that even if I go the KISS route, it will cost an arm and a leg due to time. Example?
Axles! I have a perfectly good doner dana 44 NT in TX waiting on me. Best option is to take it to a shop and have them do the install of the R&P and locker. Well, that still means in order to "bolt it in" the 8 that I need to outboard my front springs (that don't exist...RE)using a yet to be decided kit that I consistantly get opposite opinions on.?. But the rear is even harder since it gets the most use. Do I "skimp" and find an Isuzu 44, regear and add lockers and hope it works? Or do I pony up the duckies (forgoing some other possible mods) and order a custom bum...uh, rear.?. Then if thats the route...Whos rear do I...um, use? That just sounds wrong! Ahem. But it seems the big players are Dynatrac and Currie. And a ready to install rear axle with locker and gears etc...will run in the 4k area! Plus shipping and whatever!
Anyone have a Narrow trac 60 with a Zip locker laying around...?:(
 
Randyzzz said:
Hmmm...seeing as I'm a VW Bus guy too, may I submit this FC variation-

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I have naughty dreams about these vans ever since I saw one the first time :evil: Those are the MAN'S version of a VW bus :rotfl:
 
JD: I came into this discussion late, but I have to say The entire reason I am going to the lengths of building a vehicle from scratch is because it is more difficult to build up a stock vehicle to the reliability level required for Expedition type travel, than to do it from scratch.

My whole project is specifically about expedition travel. Having a very reliable Diesel powered vehicle with severe crawling capibilities, along with enough creature comforts to be able to stand to be in the thing for long periods of time, and enough space to carry what you need.

The Cummins engine speaks for itself, as does the TH400 trans, US Gear OD, Atlas Transfercase, 3/4 ton axles with ARB's which are all proven and very heavy duty components. Custom built frame, who's design is several times stronger than anything else available, and a fiberglass no rust body all contribute to the overall package. Add a 36 gallon tank, and extra water on board, and you're getting the idea.

All new equipment doesn't hurt either. But in the end you've got to have something you can trust, and can take whatever you dish out in the way of punishment and survive to get you home. You're betting your life on your vehicle anytime yo go any farther than about 25 miles form a town, so your equipment needs to be up to the task, as it can be a long walk back.:banghead:

I recommend going ARMED as well. :thumbsup: You never know what kind of BATS$%T crazy fools or Illegal Aliens, you'll run into in the back country nowadays. Look at it as going on a patrol in Iraq, except there are supposedly less people trying to kill you.

You wouldn't go out unprepared would you? Make a list of what you need and refine the list everytime you go out. Bring as many of the spare parts that can really stop you within reason and tools too. Kind of dumb to bring a spare driveshaft and have no tools to change it out.:rotfl:

The thing about trust of your buddy's is a key thing too. Never wheel with flakes that would leave you on your own in the middle of nowhere, and believe me there are plenty of them out there. Usually they show up as not wanting to risk their vehicle in any way to pull you out of a jam. The risk is in the level of experience they have, idiots will break things trying to be helpful, but end up in worse shape with 2 broke vehicles instead of one.

I was lucky to get to wheel with some of the most proficient Jeepers and Jeeps I have ever met. They literally have pulled me out of many trails I couldn't have walked home from. Many times.

One time it took 3 jeeps strung together to pull me up a hill and out to safety. Most people wouldn't have bothered, they would have just offered a ride out so I could call a tow truck. My jeep would have been stripped to the ground by the time I got back.

This is the difference between the ones you want to go with and the ones you want to avoid. Choose wisely my firend. :wave:

It also helps to look at their vehicles, make sure they are in similar condition as yours. Too nice means unwilling to risk damage. Too beat up means they don't care, and if they don'r care about their vehicles, then they damn sure won't care about your's.:evil:

Randy
 
Oops...kinda got sidetracked...

Funny how life can distract you from stuff...even and including threads one starts themselves!!
Since its been almost two months (:eek:) since I last visited my own thread, let alone updated it...well, sorry all!
I have not been vacent from the site. Just allowed my brain to rattle around in different available spaces in my head lately. So allow me to return and try and get back on track.
So following what could easily be described as a fast paced, ying/yang leave in the states I find myself having to re-evaluate my previous "bigger than life (or at least life's wallet)" build ideas. Why...well leave is costly. And spending money for good or bad happens much faster than saving it up. Am I disgruntled or bothered...nah. I think most of the expences and purchases are either wise or could be considered pre-emptive for my future. Examples you say..? Ok,
Well, other than purchasing the Scrambler itself (duh) I found a couple other things that seemed well timed. The "8" now makes 4 (technically 5) jeeps in my herd. And it is also the only one of maybe two that run and drive. The others are various stages of projects. And like all projects there are piles, literally TONs of parts, pieces, tools, and all out stuff that is associated with them. The desire has often tempted me and lately the sheer wonder has dawned on me that I have nothing that woul or could act as a tow vehicle! Pulling an 18 foot dovetail trailer with a 6 cylinder powered, 272 geared, 33" tire shod full size jeep is just not...well, safe is my first thought. Efficent is likely second. It struggled even with an empty trailer..toss on a half built 67 Commando and a double coffin sized crate full of transmissions,axles, and lots of other parts and the FSJ is rapidly overwhelmed! So to alleviate that issue I bought a tow rig. Knowing I will soon be schlepping jeeps and stuff all over the country to consolodate it all into storage I felt this the best investment. Ever rented a U-haul for cross country? And an auto transport? Ever notice how most of these 27-28 foot trucks are GAS powered!?! Uh...nah, not the best solution. So the very first night I landed stateside I hopped on the ever addictive Craigslist in El Paso and wouldn't you know it...there was exactally what I was looking for! A '99 Dodge 2500 Cummins 4x4 5speed! Low miles, clean truck, and zero "Mods" so I knew nobody had been using it at the tractor pulls!?! So I called the guy, met him the folloing morning for a test drive and bought it a few hours before my flight to Atlant left! Bye-bye second hunk of change.
Flew into Atlanta to put all my real stuff there into storage. Tools, parts, a '91 YJ, and the little normal people house hold belongings I have. Kinda sad how little I own that is not related in some way, shape, or form to building stuff. Be it metal or wood, jeeps or houses...I'd say that better than 85% of my junk is not house related. Even my fridge is a little one like a college dorm type. And it lives in the garage too!!!:crazy:
So I spent my first week sweating and slaving laboriously to pack, move, and store all this stuff. And believe me, after moving that much junk all by my self I was more than ready to relax. Thankfully...I had the second (or last, depending on ones viewpoint) week to do more enjoyable stuff...at more my own pace.
So I flew into Grand junction Colorado. Let me say WOW! To anyone that has never been to GJ (or COlorado even for that matter!) let me say...
Don't go!!!! Its a HORRIBLE, Disgusting place!!!!! YUCK!
sorry...didn't want to build it up too much and find out everbody has decided to move there before I can!!!
Seriously, GJ is just BreathTaking!!! And I was fortunate enough to get to meet my new jeep there! If there would have been a well equipped, scantilly clad, red head waiting there with a Guinness in hand I couldn't have been happier. Well, not too much happier...ahem.:rolleyes:
I was picked up at the airport by a new, good friend from the Jeepster Commando board (and his wife) and they kindly escorted me on to my next little present to myself. A new (to me again) Plasma cutter!!! Again, the crack we call Craigslist had presented me with something I wanted for years yet never could afford. Well, being deployed has a couple bennefits like saving money. So I treated myself to this with the knowledge that it will be pressed into very good use in the not to distant future as well.
Rocky and wife then drove me to his farm where he had kindly stored my CJ for me. Meeting them was a real treat...seeing his farm was fantastic. Looking at some of his Commando creations was downright cool! And they so generouslyl allowed me to stay the night. Yea to great Jeep people, new toys, and happy adventures!
Early the next morning I affixed my new tag and hit the road...Yippie! New Jeep in western Colorado...nobody shooting at me or leaving little explosive presents on the side of the road...Life is good! I meandered my way east along the I-70 corridor past what is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen! Coming from the dump of Iraq only hightened the impact and sheer awe! Just....WOW! I made a few stops here and there, mostly for coffee and to soak in the local views (some scenery not available in Iraq and some in sun dresses...ahem) and to just not feel rushed! Also made a few calls to friends and family as well as grabbing grub and gas. No, not one from the other...though....??Uh, nevermind.
All in all the drive seemed to pass pretty quickly. Before I knew it I arrived at my best friends house in Highlands ranch (just south of Denver). I got to meet his new family and we shared some chow and stories before bedtime. It was great to see him and his new wife nad kid are fantastic.
Early the next morning I got up and drove back up to Loveland to finish large purchase number three. I met a fellow via the old computer that was selling a couple of...don't laugh, Shipping containers! Yes...those big, obtrousive, steel cargo boxes one usually ignores that are literally strewn all over the world! Why? Well...storage of course! Having stuff in 3 different states (and soon two different countries!) makes one feel quite unsettled. SO... my brainstorm level epiffinay was why not buy a couple of these to hold all my worldly possesions while I am stationed in Germany the next everal years? I have a friend that I bought my Commando from that operates a multi-buisness property in Golden that happens to be partly related to storing RVs and the like. So for less (much less!) than I could ever hope to spend on a more traditional storage type facility I can store all my junk in one safe and dry spot! Good idea? I think so. And the big perk to me is that these same two containers (called ISBUs when no longer used for shipping) will eventually becom the basis of the house I willl build in Colorado some day.
Ok...whenever your done laughing at me try and Google Something like "shipping Container Homes" or a similar phrase. Look it up and then open your mind. You'll see, I'm not quite as nutso as it sounds. Need a little more proof? How about by the time I am done building this little (say 1920sq feet?) steel house I will have less than half the cost that building a traditional stick framed home would cost. And no mortgage!!! Read that again...NO Mortgage!
There will be large costs to deal with but I'm hoping to get that taken care of by the next deployment I will likely see. Stuff like the land itself (biggest cost of all) closely followed by sinking a well (gotta have water!) will take the biggest bite. But since I can swing a mean hammer I will be able to build as I go. Lucky for me I know someone (see above) with a plasma cutter to make cutting windows and doors much easier...heehee!
Sorry, a little off trail. Back to the wandering jeep story.
 
oops, too long. Part deux:

After paying for the ISBUs and arranging delivery I headed up into Nederland. Nederland is a sort of strange, strikingly beautiful in its quaintness, sort of off grid commune town. I have a hard time deciding what to make of it really. I believe its close proximity to the left living village of Boulder has a large impact on Nederland. But that aside it really is a neat little out of the way spot. Why was I there? I blame Mr Craig and his dad-gum list again! THis is perhaps the only superfulous purchase I think I really made. I was trolling the listings late one night after an especially loud mortar...uh, attack jolted me awake. I stumbled across one of those items that falls in the "I wish I had never sold my last one" catagory...In this case a 1946 Bantam 1/4 ton trailer! This one is the civilian version of what may be the perfect tag along, jeep sized utilitay trailer!!! And despite a dose of minor (yet wide spread) surface only rust, I couldn't pass on the 300 dollar price tag!!! So I hooked it up and towed it back down to Golden where it will find its way into the shipping containers when they are delivered. Too easy!
Up to the trip to Nederland the Scrambler had run flawlessly. Only one real instance where the altitude seemed to cause it to need to find 4th to pull the grade...well, until Nederland that is. Not sure what the cause is or why not until then but, the entire climb up out of Boulder the jeep sputtered and would "run out" of gas.?. My initial thought was gunk or debris in the filter or tank. So I would pull over and let it sit and settle for a bit. SOmetimes that worked...sometimes not?? I tried releasing the pressure from the gas cap too....no joy.
Once at the top I filled up and, trailer in tow, never had a glitch the entire trip back to Golden...? *Shrugs* No idea.
Well...that ended my second day in Colorado and mostly wrapped up all the big stuff. I spent the night at my friends house again and Spent the next day haning out in Golden at the big car show they had. I rolled out and back on the road around 1pm or so...no particular hurry this time. Glad for my experiences and ignoring the immennant return to the sandbox.
Again the Jeep rolled along happy as a clam for several hours until just before the Co/NM border. Then my old friend sputter returned and gave me 15 or 20 miles of reason to cuss. I drove into a semi small town of Raton, just accross the border and decided to find a hotel and some beer! Mission sucsessful on both counts and I awoke the next morning to a crisp, blue sky on the 4th of July!
One would think that spending the holiday on the road would be a bummer. To be blunt, I couldn't have thought of anything that fit the bill any better! A nice Jeep, wondering the highways of America, and free of explosives and people in my general direction! Just what I needed. Had the jeep been a little more corroperative I could have made better time but Mr Sputter played hell with me most of the day. The best I could manage by that night was T&C/Elephant Butte. Knowing that it was a holiday weekend at one of the very few lakes in the area I didn't hold out much hope for finding a place to stay. I was going to content myself with spending my first night trying to sleep in or on top of the 8. Well, thank the economy or just blind luck but it seems that the local hotel there had rooms to stay in.?. Odd...but for once it was nice to be effected for the good by the bad times! I bought some more beer and proceeded to get tipsy in a super clean hotel room all by myself. Even got to take a hour and 15 minute shower the next morning! Wow...I'm getting soft in my advanced ages...ha!
But the next day found the jeep being a little more coroperative and I made good time down into El Paso. Linked up with some friends and tried to do a little wheeling there but Mr sputter must have been just toying with me. The entire few hours we roamed the trails, basically dirt roads with some waddies and washouts here and there, I was plagued by a warm running engine and that by now too familar sputter. Noticed a large quantity of fluid dripping out of what I thought was the Rad overflow...a quick sniff revealed it to be gas! Seems the tank had pressurized and the fuel was being forced through the lines into the charcoal cannister!?! What the heck? Add to that the 4" crack in the Rad overflow and keeping in fluids was becoming a hassle.
We broke for some chow (and to escape the 115+ degree temps out in the sun) and then managed to get the jeep running again after a few hours. Well enough at least to get it limped off the trail and back to civilization.
I came back the next morning with my Dodge (remember the tow rig?) and rented a u-haul trailer (mine is in storage with a commando on it) and got them all squared away.
So here I am back in Iraq once again. The bank account has dwindled down to sadly low levels. But the price we pay now builds a brighter future, I hope. But the end result is that for the upcomming months I am back in saving mode. I can hope that by the time I return I will have enough funds to accomplish at least the biggest of the upgrades. My intent is to have a good, working battle plan of attack by then as well. That, hopefull, will make the process feasable and able to be accomplished in a timely fashion.
Stay tuned for the next installment when I try and ramble through the potential options and see how many of the dreams are still standing when the dust settles...
 
Quite a tale, and very enjoyable reading. Wish I had known you were going to be in Grand Junction. Living about 60 miles south of there, I would have come up to buy you a beer or two to thank you for your service to our country. Will be looking forward to your next installment. Keep safe over there.
 
Pre-emptive strikes...

Well this is the no sweat part and I should be enjoying it. I have switched to working nights to take advantage of less than plesent temps (120+/- Stinks!) during the day in an effort to get more accomplished. The nice thing about this is less people to "bother me". Work happens faster which leaves me more time to plan and wander the Internet.
The build for this little thing has (and will continue to..) been in flux. Trying to remain fluid and adapt to a shrinking budget would be bothersome but since I'm not wrenching, only bench racing at this point, its not so bad. I have been slowly and randumbly aquireing parts and pieces to allow me to reach some modocum of my intended goal within my tiny finances. Tonight seems to have been a big plus.
Several weeks ago I found a really good deal on a detroit locker/4.10 gear set for an AMC 20. Now, even though the one I have has the Warn FF kit installed I just don't trust the tiny axle tubes of the CJ version. And since I have a good working one under my soon to be parted 83 FS Cherokee...it seems a logical upgrade. Stronger, bigger axle with a slightly wider trac width. Install the Dlocker and 4.10s and call it good. But that leaves me with what to do about the front.
Planning to run 35s means that I am right at the cusp of the Dana 30s limits of strength. Even though the days of my full throttle assults are far in my past, the intent here is to eliminate whatever weak links I can ahead of time. So that brings me to tonights find..
I stumbled across a cut down waggy dana 44 that is already SOA, 4/10 gears, and has an ARB locker. PMs have been exchanged and I will be draining some more of the funds. But in a nut shell...problem solved! Plus, I can now shy away from the pricey lift kits and do what I do best...fabricate to save money! I will start looking around for some good SOA springs to use in my build. Likely they will be YJ or Toyota or something...I would prefer the RExpress ones but they can't seem to decide if they have worked out their supplier issues yet or not!?! Plus, I don't need an entire kit as I have some of what is needed already. But my intent is to have all the details worked out before heading home so I'm not running around looking or waiting on parts to make it happen!
Stay tuned...or better yet, feel free to contribute some comments!:thumbsup:
 
Meat or potatoes...

Update time. yea!
Well, as this little vacation enters the home stretch I thought I would share a couple new additions to the project collection pile of parts. Don't say that 3x fast! I have been able to fall into a little more regular schedule here which has been good. Not only does my aging body appreciate it but my never satiated jeep addiction has seen a little more focus. I still won't have a great amount of time to get this thing up and running to standard but I think I should be able to complete the big, heavy stuff without to much issue. That will save me the headache and high cost of having stuff shipped to Germany. Stuff like a TBI kit from AFI will be much easier to ship and handle than say...an axle!
So what have I added..? Well, since this is both a DD and my weekend escape/vacation/ exploration Jeep, it seems it should have some way to carry perishable items safely...? Namely..
a Fridge/freezer! Dun-duh-DUUUN!
And since I am far from describable as "normal" or conventional...what would I use? Well...see first picture.
Now, fridge freezers are growing in popularity and have proven to be an outstanding way to keep food (and BEER!) cool and fresh for trail runs and campfires. There are a multitude of manufactures and sizes and models available. Some are proven to be outstanding in performance...but even the cheapO ones work. So what model is that that I went with? Well..I kind of stumbled across it to be honest. And when I saw it I just kinda knew it was the right one. I hope this will be verified as it ain't cheap! If you look at the pics, the first thing you may notice is that it looks like something the military would use. That would be because it IS something the military uses! The second thing you may notice is the little red cross in a white circle...Yup, this is designed for medical transportation of blood and other temp. sensitive products. And while a used one may be a little "yucky" to some...No worries, Mine is brand new!
The old adage is that an Elephant is simply a mouse built to Government specifications! Well, this FF sure shows the logic there. This thing is just NUTS! Like some kind of Tactical M&M...all the goodies are safe inside a hard plastic shell, basically a large green Hardigg tuff box. The FF will operate off of almost any available current. 12 or 24V vehicle power, 110 or 220 US or European DC wall power. They also have 2 rechargable "back-up" batteries to allow it to continue to function should the power go out for up to 48 hours! There is also an on board computer that lets someone (not me) plug in to see the temps history. All in all this is the cats meow of FFs...and given what the Govt. paid for them I am ellated that I found one some body purchased at auction! Ack! These things were NOT Cheap!!!
The next little goody is more to save me time than anything. I could spend hours fabbing up my own bumper and winch mount but when I stumbled across this and I knew making it work would be easier and likely look better anyway...:thumbsup: Sorry pic won't load but it is an ARB made for a TJ.
I still have a lot of this and that to acquire but it is all slowly coming together...Stay tuned till next time!:cheers:
 
That is cool...but a bit out of my price range. EBay at $1200!
 
Good, Cheap, or Fast...

RandyZZZZZZZ...Yeah..believe me, even though mine was a 1/3 cheaper than the Ebay one you mentioned it still hurt hitting the paypal send button! I got mine for about the going rate for a slightly smaller, top of the line unit like an ARB or Engle. My hope is that paying a little more (there a a LOT of cheaper versions out there!) and getting one of the Government-Elephantmice engineered versions that maybe it will hold up a long time, be servicable down the road, and take an occasional wallop should something go upside down.?. I like the multi-current feature and the back up battery is cool (gotta quite using that word when talking about a freezer!) but it does have a couple down sides.
Size...With it built into the Big green Hardigg case, its no super model. And at about 125lbs its no feather.!. But for short term use in my CJ it will do...for longer trips it will eventually end up in my 1/4 ton trailer...I need to get on line and see if I can down load a TM for it. I'm curious about some of the requirements it may have. Stuff like can it be used after being being moved in a verticle position? I'd like to be able to put it in and out of the CJ but as heavy as it is I will need a dolly.
Also need to find out the dimensions of my scramblers bed...hope it fits! :o
 
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Fitting in the Bed

It looks like it will not fit between the wheelwells. That is about 36", but more like 35 1/2" between the stiffeners in the well. The well is about 9" tall and that is not from the raised ribs in the bed. It is 38" from the inside of the tailgate to middle of wheelwell. Let me know if you need any others. Did you already get, I believe I saw the ad while checking these out?
 
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