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Randyzzz Scrambler Restification Thread!

This is what I got on mine.. small but big enough to get the job done...

http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=123_140&products_id=416

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Dumb question but why did you make the hitch lower than the frame rail? I figure you would be the one to remove the sheetmetal crossmember and put a 2X4 box tubing in it's place and then sink the hitch box tubing into that and then brace it back to the frame.
 
Sink the 8274 into the frame rails and give the radiator some air movement.

Here's how my hitch is done-

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I like that, mysunnshine- looks good.

Sinkinng the winch is out of the question...there's too much stuff under there already.

Both the hitch and the winch mount were spur of the moment things. The hitch was built out of an existing part, and this was the quick and easy way. I needed a hitch fast to move a trailer this morning. I didn't want to get too fancy as I'll be building new bumpers. I have one of the HD rear cross members on there already, and that might just be what I do. Although that empty space is just begging to be utilized...and the hitch isn't any lower than the plane of the tire to bumper.

Yesterday for fun I bolted the 8274 winch on my frankenmount. Today I ended up driving to the local off road race. Just having that airflow restriction raised my driving temp up 7-10* constant. Not too happy...got me thinking about maybe a quick release winch, seeing as 90% of my driving is on-road. I'll have to put my thinking cap on, or have a good microbrew for inspiration...but that 8274 takes away from the clean look of the front end...

Seeing all those short course trucks made me yearn for a link suspension again...:rolleyes:
 
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LOL....And people say that the 8274 does not block airflow enough to cause heating issues...
 
Randy: Is your winch an 8274? if so, the only thing you could do to improve the looks is to lower it in behind the bumper. If it is a planetgear winch then you could cut that whole top half off the mount, which would effectively make it look lower..

You could also taper the ends to the same angle as the stinger bar.

Also it will be a complete different animal when you paint it and it doesn't look like it is chromeplated any more.

Lots of times things don't look right at first, but then grow on you.

I'd just paint it, mount the winch, and see how it looks then.

You can always make another.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice an existing attempt to get a clearer picture of what you really want.

Happens to me all the time.

Randy
 
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Randy- it's an 8274. Here's a pic of it mounted. Last time you'll see it there.
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It's getting interesting. I removed the winch and mount, and had to tow a trailer on about a 60 mile round trip, light load. Ambient temp 75*. Guess what- she still ran hotter than normal. Same as with the winch there. I'm going to do an unloaded test tomorrow and see what gives. Either way, I don't like the huge winch up front. Doesn't look right with the rest of the vehicle. I'm thinking a M9000 or similar. Low profile and light.

I'm basing my temp readings on a known good VDO gauge with the sender in the rear of the pass head. For the last year, mostly short trips, it has run at 180-190 on the gauge. Now it just started running at 190-200. Never goes over the 200* mark. The thermostat is stock, and should be about 195-197*. I'm just guessing the temps- the VDO gauge reads 180 I I I 220 . So I'm thinking the second I from the left is about 200*. I might try and borrow my buddy's Snap On scanner that will give me a real time temp reading from the ECM. On a good note- the heater finally seems to actually blow decently warm air- all I got before was lukewarm.

I'll post my findings once I find them! :confused:
 
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Yeah, it does kind of block the airflow.

I might just rethink and use my M6000 off the Yellow Jeep. IN my 25 years of 4 wheeling I have used my winch exactly twice.

Once to pull a tree down in my front yard at my old house and once to move a big rock at my new house. Not once on the trail nor did any of my clubmates. Ocasionally we'd put a strap on someone. Now I think about it we did use the Yellow Jeep as a deadman once to winch Danny Grimes' Jeep out of the Clawhammer trail. But that was just to get it on level ground so we could fix a broken hub.

My M6000 has a quick disconnect mount and can be used in either the front or rear of my Jeep. Since it was a Quick Disconnect Mount it spent most of its time "quick disconnected" in the garage, simply because it is absolutely pointless to haul around a winch you ain't gonna use in town.

Can you believe 8274's are $1900 now? I have two to rebuild, maybe I'll put one on my car trailer..

Randy
 
Yeah, I've got 3 8274's in the garage. There was one here local on EBay, I almost bid on it for $100 but luckily I noticed a dent in the housing first. It went for almost $170 plus shipping...probably another $100 if it's to the east coast...$270 for a dented non-working 8274.

I thought about the quick release, I actually have a spare receiver winch mount. I think the non-integrated M9000 with synthetic line will be light and low profile. I'll mount the solenoid box off to the side. Someone at work wants to buy my bumper, too.

Did a quick run to check the temps- unloaded it stayed a little cooler than with the winch or trailer. Something's changed, I'm guessing it's the thermostat. The computer's happy though, no codes for cool too long or hot. I'll get back to that issue some other day...
 
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Made some serious progress today. Got the heavy duty rear crossmember from Jason installed. All I can say is, this thing should be a requirement on every Scrambler here! It fits perfectly, the extra frame tabs made the installation 100% stronger, and it looks great!

I should have taken more pictures, but here's what I have.

I started by cutting off the stock piece of tin, and cleaning the frame stubs. I then welded 2 nuts to a drilled plate to match the existing holes in the bottom of my frame. Welded the plate in, better than threaded inserts. Next I took a piece of rectangular tubing and welded it as a support sleeve between the frame rails where the two 1/2" bolts pass through. Don't think it would crush after the side plates were welded in, but hey, overkill is good!
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Next I welded all the areas that touched before installing the side reinforcement plates. Basically, if it touched, it got welded.
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Next I installed the reinforcement plates. I just bolted them into position and burned them in. One great advantage with the plates is on the inner seam- from the factory the frame doesn't touch the rear crossmember. It does now!
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Just have to get the rest of the crud off the welds, prime, and paint.
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Thanks again, Jason for providing such a great product!

Tomorrow is shock hoop day. I got the tubes bent this afternoon, I'll post up pics of how they turn out tomorrow.
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the crossmember looks nice ! who is Jason and how to contact ?,is that a factory fuse box?
 
For the rear cross member, contact CHIEFWAHO. He'll take good care of you. I can't say enough positive things about the cross member- it fit great, it's super strong, and Jason's great to deal with.

The fuse box is a modified police car panel from MNStar. But, it is a standard Delphi panel like on the mid 2000's GM vehicles.
 
Good news on the home front- we found a place on 6 acres to share with my Daughter and her family. There's a garage a little bigger (24'x21') than what I have now, plus an attached tool room (9'x16'0, office (9'x8'), 12'x30' enclosed storage, and a 15'x30' RV garage. I will have to share with my son-in-law, but I think overall it will be great. Save a lot of money too. Great views and hardly any yard work- Bonus!

OH- there's a nice house too...

Only drawback- probably won't be able to get anything done on the Scrambler for a month or so...was hoping to have the front suspension sorted out and a driveshaft built by winter...
 
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So you're moving? that's always fun.

I suggest doing an inventory and writing down what you've got in the way of parts while it is all on the floor.

Makes it easier to sell stuff when you know exactly what you've got.

When I moved 9 years ago I just shoved everything in the corners and into a steel cabinet.

I never ceases to amaze me what I find when I go looking.

Randy
 
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For the rear cross member, contact CHIEFWAHO. He'll take good care of you. I can't say enough positive things about the cross member- it fit great, it's super strong, and Jason's great to deal with.

The fuse box is a modified police car panel from MNStar. But, it is a standard Delphi panel like on the mid 2000's GM vehicles.
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Who needs a house, as long as you have a nice garage. Opps Wrong quote.
 
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zr10054 said:
Who needs a house, as long as you have a nice garage. Opps Wrong quote.
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I tried to convince Carol that a setup like yours was ideal...she said that you must be single.:shrug: In other words, she's not going for it...
 
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I tried to convince Carol that a setup like yours was ideal...she said that you must be single.:shrug: In other words, she's not going for it...
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Show her this picture of the inside of my home(man cave). 9' ceilings wood floors and 1900 sq ft.barnominium 008.JPGAnd Yes I am Single.lol
 
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