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1982 "Vintage Red" CJ-7 Renegade

spankrjs

Scrambler Junkie
Lifetime Member
SOA Member
City
Biloxi
State
MS
Me and my big mouth, again.......................

This Jeep popped up on Craigslist a month or two ago. Original engine malfunctioned, rebuilt engine installed, it also malfunctioned.

I went and looked at this Jeep for my dear old buddy "JeepAddict". Anyway, long story short, the guy was still on the fence about selling. Was going to have engine repaired, and keep the Jeep. Well, he pulled engine, had it repaired, did not have time/motivation/good place to reinstall, so was ready to sell. Sometimes the idea versus reality of owning a CJ is too much.

Anyway, JeepAddict wanted it, so I bought it. All fine and dandy, except for a few reasons:

1) the engine was laying on a garage floor, on its side, so I had to "pick it up" first
2) my current DD is down for the count, so I am currently DD my Scramblers (not the time or place for DD issues on this thread)
3) Christmas time, people traveling, work issues, fun logistics
4) this Jeep was about 45 minutes away (not terrible, but not super convenient)

So, long story short, 3 major "steps" to this retrieval.

1) Drove to Diamondhead to pick up my engine hoist, let a coworker borrow it, About an hour each way.

2) Drove to Pass Christian to pick up the engine. Engine was not at seller's house, seller out of town, person who owned shed where Jeep/engine was located was out of town, so paid some other random family person all the cash up front, just to pick up the engine!!!!! Craigslist nightmare!!!!!!!! Actually, the seller/family are good people, so no real worries.

The engine was laying flat on the ground. Picture of it loaded up in the bed of my red Scrambler:

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I was by myself, so had to use some "RedneckRay" ingenuity to safely stand the engine up properly. Engine lift, ratchet straps, blocks of wood, prayers.......

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And the engine upright on this little stand. The stand is actually really good. It was custom made for 258/4.0's by Hesco (I need to return it). All the weight is on the four vertical bars, which rest directly on the lower block flange, supporting all the weight. Looks kind of "blah", but it works well.

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3) Picking up the Jeep.

My DD was down, I did not want to bug friends with my Jeep b#ll$hit this close to the holidays, so RedneckRay'd it, heading south of the border style!!!!

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I bought a new tow bar. Had to drill the OEM front bumper for the attachment points. IF the bumper would have been perfect, I probably would have spent a few hours swapping front bumpers. This bumper has a slight tweak and 2-3 extra holes, so I did not feel terrible drilling it. Before this, had to do the following:

1) I disconnected/secured the rear driveshaft from the rear axle
2) Secured the transmission/Dana 300 to the frame with some blocks of wood/ratchet straps
3) Secured (i.e. duct taped) all the loose dangling hoses/wires under the hood
4) PO had already secured the PS/intake/exhaust with rope (don't laugh, it worked!!!!!!)
5) Removed all the PO personal property/tools, gathered up all the loose parts

I did all this by myself Sunday morning, at a house with nobody home, in a nice neighborhood. I kept waiting for the cops to show up!!!!!!! Thankfully, when I left, a neighbor was outside doing yard work. I stopped and told him what I was doing, to take a picture of my tag/license plate if he thought I was stealing the Jeep, but he was pretty cool, didn't seam to care!!!!

Left there, drove to owner's house, did the paperwork., headed home.

Safely back in my yard:

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The Scrambler did fine towing the engineless CJ-7, a few notes:

1) I took the highway/city streets/minimal interstate usage
2) I got it up to 60mph, still felt OK, but I would not go much faster then this
3) Left AX15 in 4th gear, maintained around 55mph@2300RPM
4) Brakes/steering/handling of the Scrambler were good (NOT as good as a full size truck obviously, but not scary)
5) I have 4.10's, 33" tires, deep 1st gear AX15, MPI, 4 wheel disc brakes..................
6) Total travel distance was around 40 miles
7) I know how the drive a standard/safely work a clutch
8) minimized dead stops (although the Scrambler did not struggle from a dead stop, was trying to make this as easy as possible on Jeep)
9) Stopped a few times to check tow bar/towed Jeep/my Jeep for any issues

So a good trip, no problems, Not the best solution, but it will work in a pinch with some common sense.



Never again, again.

Putting together someone else's project, so parts everywhere!!!!!!!!!

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Before I get too far off in the woods, a few details about this Jeep.

Purchased from the 2nd owner (original owner from middle MS, so no coastal/salt exposure)
It is a 1982 model
Original paint/decals
NO ROT, only surface rust
Color Code is 1J, "Vintage Red Metallic" (JeepAddict thought this odd for 1982 color)
It is an original soft top/door Jeep (no door posts) (have the original top, maybe usable)
It came from the factory with chrome wheels (this is a Renegade model)
PS/PB/T5/258/tilt/nutmeg interior (I presume 3.31 axle gears)
Smog pump stuff removed, has the original idle control box on passenger fender
Warn 8274 (looks new, only specks of surface rust here and there)
76,000 +/- miles

The problem with the engine: The 2nd owner, for some reason, pulled out the OEM distributor and installed one of those eBay/Made in China "high performance" HEI distributors. This wiped out the teeth on the cam shaft. Had this engine rebuilt, reinstalled the same distributor, again, same cam failure.

I will take a picture of the distributor drive gear, it has some definite wear. The 2nd owner said the engine shop showed him both cam shafts, distributor gear/teeth were wiped off, both times. Did not learn his lesson.

I will now get off my soapbox about "made in China/eBay high performance HEI distributors".

So the original engine was completely rebuilt the first time. The 2nd time, it was completely disassembled, cleaned and inspected. No problems except for the cam shaft. A new cam installed, and timing gears. So, once installed, I will have to "break in" the engine/cam.
 
Some more random pictures/thoughts/observations.

Original spare tire, not speed rated any longer!!!! OEM chrome wheels still have factory clear coat, so should clean up super, if one was so inclined, which I am not at this time!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thankfully, 99% sure this is just a bolt on hitch, will be easy to remove, remove about 100 pounds!!!!!!

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Jeep is mostly intact, well, minus the engine. Wiring looks good, except for some ignition related shenanigans, Light surface rust on bare metal stuff, common for an open top Jeep.

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8274 with bolt on super heavy home made mount. Winch can stay. Mount will go.

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Some "dumb stickers" to remove, but this one is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ran when parked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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VIN tag:

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Stuffed in the garage. Actually, I pushed it to the door so plenty of room up front for engine reinstall.

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Ready to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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My engine hoist does not go high enough to clear the winch/grill, so I will have to remove them. I will actually use the damn engine lift to remove the 8274/mount, probably at least 300 pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, pull winch/grill
Reinstall flywheel/clutch to engine
Install engine
Hook up all the engine stuff
Repair/verify ignition wiring
Fire up/break in engine

Some other maintenance, any needed repairs after a few drives, then off to JeepAddict.

I plan on using the original distributor/ignition, which I have. Will change all the belts/hoses/fuel lines. The PO dropped gas tank, installed a new replacement 15 gallon tank. I will probably drop it again, change the fuel lines, any other issues.

Its a shame, most of the hoses under the hood are original "AMC stamped" pieces, but they are too old/damaged to use.

Thoughts, comments, criticism welcome:thumbsup:
 
1. NICE! That looks like a solid Jeep.
2. What is up with the Gladiator?
3. After all the effort to get it home I hope JA got you something nice for Christmas.
4. I think the windshield decal is hi-lar-i-ous and Jeep Monkey should drive it as is
5. Thought the cam gear issue was well known and surprised it is out there causing trouble still
 
Before you mentioned the thought of a cop showing up I was thinking the same thing. I could picture you telling the story and the cop rolling his eyes, listening to you. The commercial with the correction offices listening to a woman telling how hot a convict is and that she can change him. If you saw the commercial you can't help but laugh thinking of you. :thumbsup:
 
Am I the only one that wants close up pics and measurements on the engine stand?

I just bought 2 more Harbor Fright engine stands for 258s and still need another. I hate how long the 6 cylinders are on the rear mounted stands and always stab a couple 2x4s between the oil rail and front feet of the stand for added support.
 
1. NICE! That looks like a solid Jeep.
2. What is up with the Gladiator?
3. After all the effort to get it home I hope JA got you something nice for Christmas.
4. I think the windshield decal is hi-lar-i-ous and Jeep Monkey should drive it as is
5. Thought the cam gear issue was well known and surprised it is out there causing trouble still

1) Very solid from what I have seen so far
2) Emissions Recall Repair
3) See Note #4
4) Parts Monkey enroute
5) not sure on gear, but the distributors are crap. I "recurved" one once before, huge PIA. Buy the D.U.I if you want HEI :twocents:

:thumbsup::cheers:
 
Am I the only one that wants close up pics and measurements on the engine stand?

I just bought 2 more Harbor Fright engine stands for 258s and still need another. I hate how long the 6 cylinders are on the rear mounted stands and always stab a couple 2x4s between the oil rail and front feet of the stand for added support.

I'll take a few pictures/measurements. Pretty basic thing, should be easy to replicate/improve upon.

This stand is good for long term storage, but unfortunately, the engine stands are better for internal engine work. I am like you, always scared $hitless with a long inline 6 on a typical rotating engine stand :eek:
 
I might temporarily install all four of these tire/wheels on my green Scrambler and do a road test :thumbsup:
Somehow I think you could have found an easier way to acquire - known good - tires/wheels to swap onto your green Scrambler. :shrug: :rotfl:

The 7 looks like another nice project though. :thumbsup:
 
The mirror "waving hand stickers" were the first thing @bigwalton said he wanted :D
 
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A few random pictures.

Not Jeep SE, but nice:

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Under hood sticker:

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Need to find a new PS pump bracket, kind of sketchy:
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Tapped all block threaded holes, scraped paint off head, cleaned flywheel and pressure plate, installed clutch to engine:

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Using the engine hoist to remove Warn 8274/home made mount:

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Transmission jack repurposed as portable winch cart:

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Made In China eBay HEI distributor/gear that caused all this fun:

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Going to pull grill next, do some underhood cleaning while engine is out, then reinstall engine.

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That's it for now, Merry Christmas!!!!
 
Merry Christmas Raymond! I have to ask, the guinea pig starter kit........?
I have 3 guinea pigs as pets :thumbsup:

I wouldn't mind a dog BUT I am always messing with Jeeps and the associated chemicals that go along with them and it would make me sick if one got hurt/killed as a result. The guinea pigs don't wander into the garage LOL :christmas:
 
Funny. We had guinea pigs when the kids were little. Awesome pets...and my garden never grew as good when that phase of childhood moved on. They knew when veggies were being cut up.
 
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