Might as well clutter this thread up with some LJ tech!!! Just installed the 15 gallon tank in this CJ-7, how hard can it be to drop the LJ tank???
I watched a YouTube video, piece of cake!!! Well, not technically challenging, it does suck worse then a CJ 20 gallon tank!!!
LJ has full tank of gas. I wanted to siphon it out before lowering tank to make it easier, and not repeat my above described garage incident.
I removed the fuel filler from the surround, pulled surround, could not get siphon hose down fill hose, could not disconnect fill hose from tank with tank installed. I wasted an hour, could not figure it out.
Only 7 bolts hold the tank up, like a CJ: 3 in the front, 4 across the back. This LJ is 100% rust free, so no problem there.
I have never dropped a TJ/LJ tank before, so I took my time. I would lower it a few inches, gain access disconnect one thing, lower it some more, more disconnecting...........
The rear light harness/trailer harness is tied to the fill hose assembly. The rear axle vent and transfer case vent are also tied to this. The driver side cubby on this is jam packed. I recommend pulling the fuel filler cap surround off the body to see what is back there. Two wiring harnesses, two drive line vents, some small gas tank vent lines, and a metal doo-hickey attached to filler hose.
At the front of the tank, fuel supply and vent lines. They have those quick connects. I got them apart, no problem.
On passenger side, some big vent doo-hickey line has to come off, it is also some type of quick connect.
Across the rear of the tank, a hard vent line you need to unclip. It needs to stay with the frame/body.
A bunch of crap, all over the place. I took about 45 minutes to lower the tank, disconnecting things as I found them, and double checking.
With the tank lowered all the way, you can undo the PIA electrical quick connect from the fuel pump module. I also loosened this harness from an underbody clip to give me more slack before lowering the tank to the ground.
Tank down, still on jack:
After unplugging fuel pump module, I slid tank out from under the LJ. Picked it up, placed it on recycling can to gain elevation and make siphoning the gas easier:
Tank had 17-18 gallons in it, so pretty damn heavy!!!!. Even when it is empty, the tank/skid plate is not exactly light.
Picture of the top of tank, module and lock plate still in place:
The big white circle in the middle is the fuel pump module. I did not take a picture of it, but it is similar to a late model GM module. It is spring loaded, kind of scared me when I removed lock ring LOL. The lock ring is black, metal, easy to remove. There is a big green o-ring under module flange that seals it to the tank. The tank is black plastic, but the inside of tank is silver???
I cleaned all the crud out from around the module before removing it. Silver Lake Sand Dune Michigan sand up there from 2013!!!!! Pulled module, used the huge hole in the tank to remove remaining gas, and crud that fell in when I pulled module.
Tank is clean, old module temporarily cleaned and reinstalled. Once I get a new pump module, reinstallation should only take an hour or two tops.
I was careful with all the wiring/fuel line "quick connects". If you have messed with late model TJ/LJ's you know they suck. Especially the damn little red lock tabs on the electrical connectors!!!! I did not damage any of the connectors, or any of the nylon fuel/vent lines. That is a whole other mess of headaches.
Taking time to carefully take it apart will pay huge dividends upon reinstallation. I don't have to repair/obtain/replace anything, just hook it all back up.
So, interesting to see fuel tank/pump "progress". That mechanical pump on the block is a hell of a lot easier to change!!!!!
This reinforces, to me anyways, the wisdom of the external pump on my 4.0 powered Scrambler. I can crawl under that Jeep and change the pump in 45 minutes, tops. I have 57,000+ miles on the current external pump.
That being said, this is the original internal pump on this 2005 LJ that has 141,000 miles. So, maybe it will outlast my external pump, but changing it out sucks!!!! And if you were on a trail, forget about it. Hell, at stock height, you need jack stands to drop the tank, so not an easy side of road/parts store/hotel parking lot swap, either.
That's why my green Scrambler, which uses a TanksInc internal pump, has a secondary external pump plumbed and wired up. If the internal pump takes a dump, I can switch to the external pump in less then 10 minutes.
I am going to install a Bosch fuel module back into this LJ. Supposedly Bosch was the OEM source of these pumps/modules.
A little off track, but I was on a roll.
That's it for now
