FlagJeep Build - A Rookie Build
- Thread starter FlagJeep
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- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
I think it was these rugged ridge 6 inch flares, bought through a different source.
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rugged-ridge-all-terrain-fender-flare-kit-6-piece-11633-10.html
They are definitely rugged ridge, and when I get back to Flag in a couple of weeks I could verify the part #.
mysunnshine
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Phoenix
- State
- AZ
Is that thing ready yet? I'll be up there in 2 weeks playing with mine-
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
I have been working hard to try and get it ready but have had a set back and it won't be ready in 2 weeks. I was looking forward to getting out with you.
My father passed away unexpectedly Wednesday night so I have gone back to Indiana and am helping set up his funeral and will be moving my mom out to AZ. Probably won't even be back out there in two weeks when you are up in the area.
My dad was my guy, I really wanted to get the Scrambler up and going and have him come out and ride around in it with me. This is pretty hard to handle, but he went quickly so he didn't suffer. I am gonna dig up a couple of pictures of him out working on the Scrambler with my while I had him out in AZ a couple of times and throw them up here.
The scrambler is close to rolling, just need to change out the prop valve on the brakes, hook up the electric fan, put on the fender flares, attach the steering wheel and do a system check as to what else I was forgetting, but that will probably happen in August at this point.
I miss my old man.
Ol'Red
Basic User
- City
- Twentynine Palms
- State
- Ca
Praying for you and your family. So sorry for the loss of your dad. Been following your posts and dude you are motivating. I saw you looking for ways to refinish the dash pad. I am about as novice as you get but I just refinished mine this weekend. I used mineral spirits and soap and water to clean all the years of conditioning and then used rustolium vinyl paint (black and white) and taped up the lettering. I can't post pics yet-- my membership doesn't allow me to. Ill get that fixed here soon and throw them up. I am still surprised how well it turned out. Looks brand new. Any way God bless you and I look forward to seeing how the Scrambler turns out.
- City
- Dillsboro
- State
- IN
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
Back to work
Thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers. It has been very much appreciated. It has been a tough month but things are starting to move on. I packed up my mom and brought her out to Arizona with me after the funeral so things have been busy. I did get back on to working the Jeep this weekend with my brother-in-law though.
So I was thinking I should drive the Scrambler to work this week, if I could get some front fender flares installed to protect the paint job. Of course, it needed some test drives this weekend to see if it would be road worthy, and my brother-in-law is a much tougher test driver than I. So, after a few nice drives he dropped it in 4-lo, stepped on the gas and BANG
Yeah, I figured the driveshaft blew up. Was pretty sure I had it torqued on the leashes and C-V Joint. Well, somehow it blew out of the leashes on the rear axle yoke.
So, the rebuilt Scrambler got it's first tow home. When pushing it up in my driveway, I noticed the rear axle had ~15 degrees of forward to backward play in it. I think I know what could have been the problem. When checking the u-bolts on the rear axle, they were not torqued up to the 85 ft-lbs I had thought I put them to 10 months ago or so.
Well, just tighten them down and that should be okay, I thought. This is all part of the learning process. I next found that the axle perches for the leaf spring were now rounded. Oh yeah, when I was cleaning up the axles those perches in the rear were full of dirt and rust, and I did clean that all out, but I never thought about the fact they would no longer have strength. Oops. Gonna have to fix that one.
Any ideas on heavy duty perches to weld onto the axle housing? The angled piece that fits between the spring and perch got cracked too, but I figure the new perches can be welded on in a position that renders them useless anyhow.
Also, noticed a little chunk of the rear yoke was blown off in the initial incident, the little piece that helps align the one side of the u-joint. Got a new one on order with u-bolts instead of leashes to hold the u-joint in this time.
I am thinking the boaty feel of the drive was in large part due to the loose rear end. Hopefully it was.
Despite all the issues, I still think I will drive it, slowly, in to work tomorrow. It is about a 3 mile drive, should be able to handle that, and we'll see what else happens.
Thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers. It has been very much appreciated. It has been a tough month but things are starting to move on. I packed up my mom and brought her out to Arizona with me after the funeral so things have been busy. I did get back on to working the Jeep this weekend with my brother-in-law though.
So I was thinking I should drive the Scrambler to work this week, if I could get some front fender flares installed to protect the paint job. Of course, it needed some test drives this weekend to see if it would be road worthy, and my brother-in-law is a much tougher test driver than I. So, after a few nice drives he dropped it in 4-lo, stepped on the gas and BANG
Yeah, I figured the driveshaft blew up. Was pretty sure I had it torqued on the leashes and C-V Joint. Well, somehow it blew out of the leashes on the rear axle yoke.
So, the rebuilt Scrambler got it's first tow home. When pushing it up in my driveway, I noticed the rear axle had ~15 degrees of forward to backward play in it. I think I know what could have been the problem. When checking the u-bolts on the rear axle, they were not torqued up to the 85 ft-lbs I had thought I put them to 10 months ago or so.
Well, just tighten them down and that should be okay, I thought. This is all part of the learning process. I next found that the axle perches for the leaf spring were now rounded. Oh yeah, when I was cleaning up the axles those perches in the rear were full of dirt and rust, and I did clean that all out, but I never thought about the fact they would no longer have strength. Oops. Gonna have to fix that one.
Any ideas on heavy duty perches to weld onto the axle housing? The angled piece that fits between the spring and perch got cracked too, but I figure the new perches can be welded on in a position that renders them useless anyhow.
Also, noticed a little chunk of the rear yoke was blown off in the initial incident, the little piece that helps align the one side of the u-joint. Got a new one on order with u-bolts instead of leashes to hold the u-joint in this time.
I am thinking the boaty feel of the drive was in large part due to the loose rear end. Hopefully it was.
Despite all the issues, I still think I will drive it, slowly, in to work tomorrow. It is about a 3 mile drive, should be able to handle that, and we'll see what else happens.
- City
- Dillsboro
- State
- IN
Matt Trout (Jeepnmatt) here on this forum produces some very sturdy replacements at a reasonible price: http://troutindustries.easycgi.com/TIndustries/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=6
- City
- Redmond
- State
- OR
I'm so sorry I missed the post about the loss of your Dad. My thoughts and prayers go out to you. My Dad was my backup/support/inspiration too, He passed 7 years ago and I still miss him like it was yesterday.
I had to weld perches to my rear axle, I used some aftermarket ones that were fully boxed, no openings on the ends. They have held up great, I have even twisted and axleshaft and they're still holding on. I have the strap style rear yoke too...I think mine is on borrowed time. Post up pics of how you modify yours.
I had to weld perches to my rear axle, I used some aftermarket ones that were fully boxed, no openings on the ends. They have held up great, I have even twisted and axleshaft and they're still holding on. I have the strap style rear yoke too...I think mine is on borrowed time. Post up pics of how you modify yours.
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
Drove to Work
Came home for lunch, it was a nice day so I drove the Jeep on into work. Showed it to a bunch of people. It ran well on the way to work and around the parking lot. One little coolant leak around the temperature sender on the radiator that can be fixed later.
One of the two Scramblers used as daily drivers at my building was there too.
On the way home, things were not quite so good. The transmission stopped shifting smoothly halfway home, seemed not to want to go into 3rd gear, or any other gear, then when in neutral position the transmission was not fully engaged. By the time I got close to home I got puffs of smoke (very bad I assume
) when I would push in the clutch. I am going to check the transmission fluid level (put in the specified amount of the specified fluid) and probably will drop the transmission and transfer case when I get my new perches to weld on to the rear axle. Then I can look at the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearin, etc...
I bought the pair I had posted in a previous post today just so I can hopefully get something in quick. I will show updated pics when I swap out the yoke with the u-bolt style yoke, and cut off the old perches and put in new ones.
Came home for lunch, it was a nice day so I drove the Jeep on into work. Showed it to a bunch of people. It ran well on the way to work and around the parking lot. One little coolant leak around the temperature sender on the radiator that can be fixed later.
One of the two Scramblers used as daily drivers at my building was there too.
On the way home, things were not quite so good. The transmission stopped shifting smoothly halfway home, seemed not to want to go into 3rd gear, or any other gear, then when in neutral position the transmission was not fully engaged. By the time I got close to home I got puffs of smoke (very bad I assume
) when I would push in the clutch. I am going to check the transmission fluid level (put in the specified amount of the specified fluid) and probably will drop the transmission and transfer case when I get my new perches to weld on to the rear axle. Then I can look at the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearin, etc...I bought the pair I had posted in a previous post today just so I can hopefully get something in quick. I will show updated pics when I swap out the yoke with the u-bolt style yoke, and cut off the old perches and put in new ones.
mysunnshine
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Phoenix
- State
- AZ
What temp sender is in the radiator? There should not be any-
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
Yeah, two of them. The one for the electric fan I am pretty sure should go there. The other one I had in the bottom of the radiator intake side for the dash gauge. Maybe that isnt the best idea. I am going to have to check but I was thinking there was one on the engine that went to the computer.
Thoughts?
mysunnshine
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Phoenix
- State
- AZ
The ECU should be able to control the fans so that one can be taken out. Your dash gauge sender should be in the motor also. If you have a t-stat stick, then you'll have to catch it by how the motor feels or smells instead of the gauge.
mysunnshine
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Phoenix
- State
- AZ
You also want NO electricity flowing thru the radiator. That's the fastest way to self-destruct a radiator-
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
Finally got my transmission and transfer case back from the transmission shop. The issue ended up being that the output shaft was too long. Bought an advance adapter kit and apparently there is enough variation in various builds of the NV4500 that they built their output shaft on the long side, with instructions to check the fit and shave it down if it is too long. The transmission shop did a good job rebuilding the transmission and the transfer case but did not read the instructions on the adapter kit. Oh well, I suppose that is probably part of the side effects of not reinstalling what came out of the Jeep.
Moving my mom into a house in late October, with a deer hunt right after that, so the new hope of a roadworthy, and perhaps trailworthy, Scrambler is Christmas time.
I will work on the temp senders prior to that point.
Moving my mom into a house in late October, with a deer hunt right after that, so the new hope of a roadworthy, and perhaps trailworthy, Scrambler is Christmas time.
I will work on the temp senders prior to that point.
- City
- Flagstaff
- State
- az
After a significant amount of family things to be taken care of (and a deer hunt), the transmission and transfer case are now back in the Scrambler. I swapped the rear pinion yoke out for a u-bolt style yoke after chipping a piece out of the original yoke in the earlier rear-axle issue. When I tightened the u-bolts I went a little too strong on it and stipped the bolts so now replacements are on the way for those.
The oil-pressure and engine temperature set-ups (Thanks mysunnshine for the note) will be adjusted prior to the new year and hopefully the Jeep is ready to roll for some scouting prior to my February javelina hunt.
I have some pics to add on here at some point also.
The oil-pressure and engine temperature set-ups (Thanks mysunnshine for the note) will be adjusted prior to the new year and hopefully the Jeep is ready to roll for some scouting prior to my February javelina hunt.
I have some pics to add on here at some point also.
FlagJeep,
Have read through this thread twice now, because it sounded like you were in the same boat I am in when you started the rebuild. I did some basic restoration on a '66 mustang when I was a kid, and basic car maintenance since then, but besides that have very little car repair experience. There is a jeep for sale on this site by Highlander22 that I am seriously considering, because it looks like the frame and bodywork is already done. I am very nervous about having the knowledge to put together a jeep that i did not take apart, especially since it has a GM engine and transmission that will very likely require some modifications. Have been perusing this site for a couple of years, waiting for the right jeep and right timing.
Am I crazy? Should I be starting with a jeep that runs and work on it to keep it running before I tackle a project like this?
Any advice appreciated. . . . Sorry about your dad, sounds like the way to go though. . .
Have read through this thread twice now, because it sounded like you were in the same boat I am in when you started the rebuild. I did some basic restoration on a '66 mustang when I was a kid, and basic car maintenance since then, but besides that have very little car repair experience. There is a jeep for sale on this site by Highlander22 that I am seriously considering, because it looks like the frame and bodywork is already done. I am very nervous about having the knowledge to put together a jeep that i did not take apart, especially since it has a GM engine and transmission that will very likely require some modifications. Have been perusing this site for a couple of years, waiting for the right jeep and right timing.
Am I crazy? Should I be starting with a jeep that runs and work on it to keep it running before I tackle a project like this?
Any advice appreciated. . . . Sorry about your dad, sounds like the way to go though. . .