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Legacy Scramblers

Manhattan said:
No doubt it's nice. But, it's basically a catalog cruiser - 95% of it is straight out of a catalog. There's virtually zero "craftsmanship" here - just skilled assembly.

Look at the interior - a Tuffy box, an off-the-shelf shifter bolted to the floor, a dash from Omix... The seats are bolt-in - no custom upholstery work. For $180,000, the custom dash and custom center console should be wrapped and stitched to match the custom seats.

The exterior is the same - more catalog shopping. Sure, nice fenders and tailgate (maybe) but, come on - is that a Smittybilt windshield hinge and door kit? Poison Spider stinger bumper from 4WD?

Okay, under the hood is pretty badass - tons more catalog shopping but some custom work for sure to make that all fit.

Axles, suspension... more catalogs

8 guys and Black card could knock that project out in a weekend.

I've seen more genuine craftsmanship and creative/innovative design and build work on several jeeps on THIS sight.
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I've seen more genuine craftsmanship and creative/innovative design and build work on YOUR jeep!
 
OGRES said:
I've seen more genuine craftsmanship and creative/innovative design and build work on YOUR jeep!
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Thanks... but, I'd put my CJ in that "Catalog Cruiser" class too. I can't weld, build a motor, bend a tube... so I bought panels, a crate motor, axles... The only thing on mine that would fall under the "craftsman" category would be the cage, bumper, rock rails and dash.

There are LOTS more Jeeps on this site with LOTS more true craftsmanship in them than mine. And, I'll bet they don't have $100,000+ in them either.
 
For $190,000 I'd expect a Jeep that is 100% (or close to it) scratch built with custom one off things that you can't get from a catalog. I went over this Jeep with a pretty fine tooth comb... There is nothing overly special about it, (besides 3.0L Cummins). Yes, its beautiful, and I want it (like most Jeeps) but its lacking "one-offness".
If I had that kind of money, I'd gladly take my Jeep over it any day of the week and buy an Audi R8 (or something like it)...
 
I just find these Legacy builds laughable. As stated it's basically a catalog cruiser, no craftsmanship. I saw more craftsmanship in the OC choppers when they customized by welding doo-dads all over a store-bought frame and tank and farmed out the rest. I had $200K I agree, I would be driving something vintage and that will appreciate. These will not...... and they are Jeeps in name only--I don't think there is anything original on them.
 
Sorry bout the confusion ( wink)
For $200,000 I would buy property for $192,000 and drive my $8000 jeep to it
 
The trouble i have with this is that its never been or is ever gonna be a Scrambler, they are trying to make something modern out of something that deserves to stay classic and for me it just doesn't work :shrug:
And yes the gear shifter is hideous;)
 
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I was wondering how they got away with using the "Scrambler" name - thinking surely Chrysler's kept that TM registration up to date. Nope. They filed for the TM December 14, 1981 and let it expire September 19, 1985. While surprisingly shortsighted for a major corporation, this is pretty much on par for Chrysler. Remember, this is the brain trust that decided, in 1991, that the full-size luxury SUV market is dead.
 
So does that mean if they were to ever build a NEW Scrambler Jeep use the name?
 
Flatie46 said:
So does that mean if they were to ever build a NEW Scrambler Jeep use the name?
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They could probably use it. TM law gets cloudy when giant companies are playing. Right or wrong, Chrysler would crush any opponents in legal fees, suits, etc. No other major car company would want the brand (not that it's bad, just that big guys don't generally want to other big guys' brands) so, Chrysler (Jeep) would probably just use it.
 
The guy in the booth said it was a banks built italian diesel, and he was very proud of the click shifter, whatever a click shifter is... He maintained that it was all 'NATO Spec'..... I'm glad I didnt ask about price at the time.... sheesh! having said that, there was a 4 door JK brute with a 6.4 Hemi and some AEG Parts on it in the BFG tent, $119404
 
AK-RWC said:
It's a tailgate that Aqualu makes.
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I like the tailgate, it's the hinges that look "off". Maybe emboss "Scrambler " on the tailgate, make the hinges look more stock, French in a license mount and some LED backup lights...
 
I understand the animosity (maybe not the right word) that seems to be surfacing towards this build. We have real Scramblers, then this company comes along and makes reproductions and sells them for an exorbitant price. And acts like they are "restorations." Really...

But be honest...if you had an unlimited budget, wouldn't you go out and buy a tub, frame, axles, engine, or whatever else you could imagine? Why scrounge in junkyards or make do with used when you can just buy the best? I know the best incentive to do it yourself is not being able to afford to pay someone else to do it for you! I'm not saying you wouldn't get the enjoyment of the build, you'd just be working with all perfect parts. Sounds pretty good if you can afford it.

Now, I agree that the imagination, the aesthetics, and the originality of the Legacy might be lacking. There are improvements I'd make...and I'm sure we could each come up with a list. But I think it's pretty cool that this kind of tribute to our Scramblers has been made. I was actually bummed when Icon didn't produce a Scrambler- I thought they missed out on one of the best opportunities out there.

Anyway, I still think it's a fantastic concept, even if I don't agree 100% with the execution.
 
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