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FlagJeep Build - A Rookie Build

FlagJeep,

Have read through this thread twice now, because it sounded like you were in the same boat I am in when you started the rebuild. I did some basic restoration on a '66 mustang when I was a kid, and basic car maintenance since then, but besides that have very little car repair experience. There is a jeep for sale on this site by Highlander22 that I am seriously considering, because it looks like the frame and bodywork is already done. I am very nervous about having the knowledge to put together a jeep that i did not take apart, especially since it has a GM engine and transmission that will very likely require some modifications. Have been perusing this site for a couple of years, waiting for the right jeep and right timing.

Am I crazy? Should I be starting with a jeep that runs and work on it to keep it running before I tackle a project like this?
Any advice appreciated. . . . Sorry about your dad, sounds like the way to go though. . .

I say, if you are ready to start/complete a rebuild....then go for it. I am in the middle of my first restoration/rebuild and I never did anything like it before either. Take pictures of anything you disassemble and ask questions on here for anything you need to reassemble. These CJ's are pretty basic.
 
FlagJeep,

Have read through this thread twice now, because it sounded like you were in the same boat I am in when you started the rebuild. I did some basic restoration on a '66 mustang when I was a kid, and basic car maintenance since then, but besides that have very little car repair experience. There is a jeep for sale on this site by Highlander22 that I am seriously considering, because it looks like the frame and bodywork is already done. I am very nervous about having the knowledge to put together a jeep that i did not take apart, especially since it has a GM engine and transmission that will very likely require some modifications. Have been perusing this site for a couple of years, waiting for the right jeep and right timing.

Am I crazy? Should I be starting with a jeep that runs and work on it to keep it running before I tackle a project like this?
Any advice appreciated. . . . Sorry about your dad, sounds like the way to go though. . .

Depends on what you are wanting out of building the Jeep. I wanted to gain some in-depth mechanical knowledge of what I would be driving around, and have accomplished that (although I am still no where close to being an actual mechanic). I will say that a good frame and no body work are the two things I would look for if I were doing this again, because my frame had some issues and the body work prior to painting took forever. I will not likely ever do that sort of body work again, experienced once is good enough for me on that.

I would not worry about not having taken it apart, there is plenty of info on this forum and to some degrees other sources to help you piece things back together. If things are missing that may make it somewhat tricky, as there are a few items in the unobtainium category.

I have no regrets about putting a reliable fuel injected engine in my Jeep. Adapting a different engine and transmission does add some complexity and cost to the project though. I still would rather spend time on that than on body work though.

Anyhow, not sure if that helps, but as 53D says, just go for it. I basically dove head first into a puddle and figured it out from there. I was going to put the same engine and transmission in when I started, but the project will get scope creep as you go.
 
2013 -The year of driving my Scrambler

Christmas week was a busy one in Tucson, especially for my Scrambler. With lots of help from my brother-in-law, the Jeep is once again (or maybe for the first time) road worthy.

Improvements from the past week -
-Doors installed, with latches, windows, and locks functional. This was actually the greatest challenge of the week, the things did not want to work.
-Temp sender for dash gauge moved to the engine head, and wired, and functions!
-Oil sender installed, oil gauge is installed, but it is not yet functional (will check into this soon)
-Parking brake switch modified and wired, and functional
-Proportioning valve wired into the brake warning light circuit
-Reverse lights wired and functional
-Wipers linkages connected, wiper switch connected to the painless harness, and wipers are functional
-Headlights now work after a lot of grounding was installed on the harness, same with hazard lights
-Condenser mount improved
-Hood safety latch found and installed
-Pre-wiring for the A/C system
Took it for a test drive this morning, and on a very hilly road got to confirm that 35 inch tires on a 4.5" RE lifted Scrambler will have some body rub on the rear side of the rear well when bouncing the Jeep.

Next to do's
-Install new heater core, and blower motor
-Mount the fuel regulator to something solid
-Install seat belts for the bench seats
-Install the new steering wheel/horn
-Take in to the shop and get the A/C unit installed (not really a winter requirement, but might as well wrap things up)
-Wire up my dome lights
-Install the rollover/check valve on the fuel tank vent line

The A/C system I purchased also has a heat component (heater core) involved inside of it, but given the cold winters (below zero at night recently here) I am thinking of also installing the factory heater box and having a substantial heating capacity inside the full length hard top for the family in the winter.

Glad to have this thing drivable - should be able to take it out hunting javelina in February
 
builds lookin good...... the white looks good on the scrambler now you got me think on mine lol...... i wish i would of went with a LS motor in mind but ill try to run mine for a year to see if i like it if not LS here i come, but knowing me ill do some stupid LS-2 lol....... good choice on the size on the rims cause tire for 17" are NOT cheap

heres a website for LS parts & swaps --------http://www.hotrodlane.cc/--------- these guys know there stuff!!!!!!!! there some rednecks but there smart as hell when it come too LS swaps i use them when i have to do anything LS
 
Spare tire carrier installed

I guess it wasn't on my list of next to do's, but I am working on cleaning my garage and the tire carrier and spare tire take up a lot of room when they aren't mounted on the Jeep.

Not the greatest tire carrier, but it will work for now.

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The heater core I ordered last weekend will show up tomorrow (later than promised, but oh well) so this coming week should bring cabin heat to the Scrambler.
 
Took a little while but the heater core is now installed. Appropriately it happened on the first day of spring, signalling the end of the winter season where I really needed it.

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I think with the snow melting and the garage warming up, and the selling of my other cars, I will now be motivated to get this thing "finished" off and back to driving it. The winter, in combination with the 3 kids and other family things to work on, took its toll on Scrambler progress but hopefully I am back on track.
 
Back to daily driver status

Got the heat installed and functional. The coolant lines are split so that when I get my A/C and heat underdash system installed I will have two functional heater cores (for those cold winter nights).

Probably could have made it look prettier but it is functional
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Got to work yesterday and parked next to a co-workers stock Scrambler. Nice to be back on the road with it. Plus I got rid of my Camry so I need it running if I don't feel like riding my mountain bike to work.
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Very nice! :thumbsup:

It's not everyone that can park next to another Scrambler at work. :wave:
 
It's not everyone that can park next to another Scrambler at work. :wave:

So far there is a blue one and the stock one pictured above that work in my building, and another guy I work with has a build of one in progress, at least the last I knew it was progressing.

They seem popular in our small city, even after JEEPTHRILLS moved out of town with his.
 
It is not all fun and games even once the Scrambler gets going on the road. I figured I would have some break-in period where I work through issues associated with putting together my first Jeep. I was hoping the transmission would not be involved with those issues.

I am hoping it is not a major issue, but maybe that is just me trying to fool myself into sleeping well tonight. A more thorough explanation of the problem is on the thread linked below.
https://www.cj-8.com/forum/showthread.php?38587-Metal-shards-in-trans-NV4500
 
After another transmission rebuild (essentially), I re-installed the transmission and was once again good to go. I thought.

After a week of driving with the transmission back in, after getting the clutch linkage set up to where it seemed to feel right, I started thinking I should try the Jeep out on the interstate. Probably not a bad idea, right.

Apparently my rear u-joint did not have grease in it. I think the shop I had lengthen my driveshaft and replace the u-joints must have forgot to grease/check it and I guess I checked all the other grease points but this one, but when a u-joint gets going fast enough to get your Jeep going 75mph, metal on metal friction is apparently not a good things. Of course- it held together, so I at first was thinking something was going on with the engine until after lunch it became much more apparent (through sound and feel) that the issue was coming from the drive-shaft/axle area. I will say the u-bolt style yoke did a commendable job of holding on to a very wiggly u-joint. On one side, the u-joint fused to the cap, on the other side the needle bearings had dissappeared and the u-joint flopped around inside the cap with every revolution of the driveshaft.

Fortunately, when this happened Friday afternoon, I got into the driveshaft shop and they were not busy and fixed me up with a new slip-yoke section of the drive shaft and u-joint, with grease in it.

After another week of driving now, things seem to be going well. I am knocking on all kinds of wood.

Weather is starting to get nice so I am hoping to take the hard top off and use the half doors I have stored in the garage.
 
:Congratulations! thumbsup: Enjoy. :wave:
 
I fell off the face of the earth for a bit there, but back at it now.

Was driving the kids out in the forest past a mountain lake and ... lost the clutch. But I lost the pedal, and there was no getting out of gear. I had parked on a hill and when I went to get started one of the two bolts holding on the clutch linkage mount to the bellhousing sheared in half. Should have used grade 8, and I didnt have the second bolt tightened so I did come back and tighten that one. I think that one being loose allowed too much flex on the other one and snap... had to MacGuyver it back to town with a bolt I pulled off the hi lift jack mount on the Bumper.

So after feeling good about that one we went out camping for a weekend way down a washboard forest road near a fishing lake. I drove it around a bunch that weekend, feeling pretty good about it. Noticed that it didn't "go" like I thought it normally did when I would get started in first but tried not to worry about things too much, just wanted to enjoy the Jeep for the weekend. Had the jon boat tied to the top of the cage with the top off, and all that wind made it pretty hard to hear anything. On the way back home, I jumped on the freeway and had it buzzing up around 75mph for a rare time, and the stiff spring crosswinds made it a bit hard to control. Man the steering feels sloppy on this thing and it feels like there is some speed related issue but I can't pin it down. I was following the family home and they stopped off at McDonald's 8 miles before getting home. The kids were hungry and could not wait 10 more minutes. The man upstairs was looking over me because I decided to stop along with the family and as I came to a stop, at that slow speed, I could hear an awful metal on metal shearing sound with one of the wheels catching to a complete stop once or twice per revolution. Deciding something was seriously wrong, I talked a friend into helping me force the jeep up on his trailer and dropping it off at my house. Upon jacking the Jeep up in the air I noticed the front right wheel hanging like a limp noodle. Upon inspection, it had one lug nut on one lug bolt holding it on, that nut took three turns by hand to remove. The other 4 lug studs had backed themselves back inside the hub/rotor and started shearing off spindle studs. Another 8 miles at 75mph on a curvy freeway probably would not have ended up well, but since things did end up okay I fixed the resulting damage and have moved on. (There was a moment of pause with a beer to calm the nerves down a bit).

I have since purchased an extra torque wrench for the Jeep, and the nuts do not now seem to be loosening up. I had had a few issues with the rear axle, so those wheels had been on and off several times (and torqued each time), but the front axle had been left alone after the first assembly and the lack of re-checking the torque on these aluminum wheels turned out to be a rookie error that I survived, but that won't happen again.

And then on top of those issues my father in law took on a bull elk with a honda accord after dark, and narrowly (as narrowly as it comes) escaped with his life and deservedly soaked up a lot of our time over the last month and a half. Thankfully he is doing much better and now that he is upright and recovered extremely well (still a long road ahead of him but he can walk, talk, think, hear, see somewhat) I can get back to spending a little time on the Jeep.

So this week I have been driving it to work again. And the top is off. And it has rained heavily each day... and it is kind of enjoyable. I am thinking of adding a bikini/bimini top but not sure what to purchase. Something full length would be nice but haven't found anything like that yet.

And as for progress on further completion of the Jeep, after not spending much on it for a large part of the year (except in repair parts) I dropped some money on some poison spyder bumpers. Will be neat to get them in, powder coated and mounted on the Scrambler along with the winch that has been a garage decoration for two years now.

Anyhow, getting back to normal and hopefully will have some free time to get on here a bit more and peruse the Scrambler world.
 
Sorry to hear about all of the trouble and really glad to hear your father-in-law is ok. Just want to say how much I enjoy this thread. Look forward to pictures of the new bumpers!


 
Wow...quite an update. Glad all is heading in the right direction.

And, like Ol'Red said...we need pics of the bumpers!
 
Bumpers should come in a couple of weeks, will do some before and after pics on the thread.

Thanks Ol' Red
 
Bumpers are in - at the powder coater

Bumpers are in. Pre-paint pictures are here. Hopefully by mid-next week post-paint final pics should be able to go up.

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A few of the parts from the rear bumper/tire carrier set up were missing in the initial shipment so those will be in Monday, with powder coating on those done middle of next week.
 
Bumpers are on

Front and rear bumpers are on, winch on the front, hi - lift jack on the back. Need to figure out an easy way to crop out the license plate then I will post the rear bumper picture too.
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I think it turned out pretty nice, happy so far with the bumper and powdercoat choice.
 
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