‘82 Engine Swap & Restification

tower210

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I'm running 295/70/17 tires (measure about 33.5 dia. - most equivalent to a 34" tire) on 17" method wheels (8.5" W x 4.75 BS).

Tires stick out about 3" on each side... I know that 1" spacers wouldn't keep them out of my springs (tried). I do have a shackle reversal; but that shouldn't have affected the steering/width.

Custom backspaced wheels would have been better; but also more $$

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ag4ever

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Nice, I am really weighing my options.

New would be great, fast, and easy.

Rebuilt would be great, slow, and built (not bought).

I think I want near stock width. I have a set of MT 15x10 rims I could use (if I don’t end up selling them, not sure they are my style) and they have stock rim backspacing (or offset). That puts all the extra tire to the outside, so I don’t need extra axle width to compensate for wider rims/tires.

So a NT Wagoneer axle narrowed 4” is almost stock CJ axle width. I might go look at the axles the shop by my office has. They specialize in dismantling Wagoneers and other old Jeeps, so I assume they will have a stack to choose from.

I have ruled out the Scout II axles. Just not what I want.

Probably go for a new D60 in the rear, unless I find the right D60 locally I can cut down.

But new front and rear is still appealing (even though I like the built, not bought mentality).
 

tower210

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I'm guessing stock width and 35s is going to give up some turning radius....

I'm likely going Izuzu D44 rear; just re-drill the rotors and add a locker and be done with it....

'63-69 J-200, J-2000 65.5"
'63-69 J-300, J-3800 65.75"
'70- 72, Gladiator J-2000 frnt-63.5" rr-63.81"
'70- 72, Gladiator J-4000 frnt-63.8" rr-64.38"
'73 J-2500 frnt-63.5" rr-63.8"
'73 all other J trucks frnt-63.9" rr-64.4"
'74-75 J-10 frnt-62.9" rr-63.8"
'76-87 J-10 frnt-63.3" rr-63.8"
'74-75 J-20 frnt-62.9" rr-64.4" with disc brakes: frnt-63.0" rr-64.4"
'76-84 J-20 frnt-64.9" rr-65.9"
'63-72 Wagoneer 57"
'73 Wagoneer frnt-57.3" rr-57.5"
'74-75 Wagoneer frnt-59" rr-57.5"
'74-75 Cherokee (full size) frnt-58.8' rr-57.5"
'76-91 Wagoneer, '80+ Cher frnt-59.4" rr-57.8"
'76-79 Cherokee (full size) frnt-59.2" rr-57.8"
'76-78 Cherokee S frnt-59.5" rr-58.5"
'76-80 Cherokee Chief 2 dr. frnt-65.4" rr-62.3"
'81-83 Cherokee Chief 2 dr. frnt-65.3" rr-62.3"
'67-71 Jeepster C-101 50"
'72-73 Commando C-104 frnt-51.5" rr-50"
'72-83 CJ-5, frnt-51.5" rr-50" (so called-
'76-81 CJ-7, CJ-8 ('81 only) frnt-51.5" rr-50" narrow axle)
'82-86 CJ-7 frnt-55.8" rr-55" (so called- wide axle)
'82-85 Scrambler, CJ-8 frnt-55.8" rr-55" wide axle )
'84-87, 93 up Cherokee XJ 58"
'88 up Cherokee XJ 57"
'86-92 Comanche, 57"
'87 up Wrangler, YJ/TJ 58"
'93 up Grand Cherokee, ZJ/WJ 58"
 

Chamba

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City
Vero Beach
State
FL
I'm running 295/70/17 tires (measure about 33.5 dia. - most equivalent to a 34" tire) on 17" method wheels (8.5" W x 4.75 BS).

Tires stick out about 3" on each side... I know that 1" spacers wouldn't keep them out of my springs (tried). I do have a shackle reversal; but that shouldn't have affected the steering/width.

Custom backspaced wheels would have been better; but also more $$

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Love where your front axle is in the front fender opening. Does the shackle reversal move it forward? I'm having my new axles made with the perch 1" aft, thus moving the axle forward to centre it in the front wheel well better. I've never liked how it sits in front opening.

Did you have any interference issues with the Pittman arm / drag link and the tie rod? Mine looks like I've got about an inch to play with. I'm thinking about moving the steering box forward about 2" to have some room to move the axle forward.

I really like your rig. Very pretty. Like the drive train, stance, modern flair. Just about everything.
 
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tower210

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KS
I might have cheated a bit on the front axle placement; but not with the shackle reversal (that I know). The SR was on it when I got it; so I didn't have a before and after to compare.

When I got the custom springs; I wanted it centered a tiny bit more; Alcan put the spring perch pin either 1/2" or 1" forward (I forget). I did have to go to the MORE HD steering box (that moves the steering box forward too a bit); but this was almost a mandatory upgrade in my mine anyway. I already had the tie rod flipped to the top... It did make the factory sway bar mounts unusable. But I've found with the Alcan springs (your results might be different) that I really didn't need a sway bar on the streets.... I might at some point put an anti-rock style bar...

I appreciate the compliments. I love it too; the last swap to the 34's really hit the sweet spot in my opinion for getting the jeeps proportions they way I like it. My only regret is....the new wheels and tires weigh so much more than the 32s that it doesn't ride and drive quite as perfect as it did before. I actually think I can fix that; if I weighed everything again and got in touch with Alcan..... That'll be after new axles (if it happen); still rides/drives better than 90% of the CJs I've driven.
 

Chamba

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Vero Beach
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FL
Looks like 1" to me, maybe a bit more? I like it a lot- perfect proIortions.

I've ordered a new PBR box from Morris (which has been back ordered for weeks with no word on when I'll get it) and a TDK heavy duty mount waiting to go on. I'm toying with mounting that forward an inch (i wish I'd known someone made a mount which did that for me) just for piece of mind. I've got the drop Pittman arm on there, so perhaps with less drop I could avoid hitting the tie rod with less effort, we'll see.

Mine came with 4" lift springs (i don't know the make, though they have "made in Canada " stickers on them.... any thoughts? ) but I would also have the spring pin moved forward if i ordered new springs. My new axles have the hole in the perch drilled at centre and then also 1" aft, so that will accomplish the same thing really.

Anyway, enough hijacking this thread.
 
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