82 UK Spec Laredo Scrambler Build No 2

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Halifax
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UK
#21
I can take some measurements if it would help you. I am around 1.25-1.5" offset to the drivers side. Distributor is very close to the firewall, I wanted to leave space for 2 extra cylinders. Further from the firewall will help with the fan shroud if you keep the mechanical fan. Those mounts should be easier to weld in than what i used as the height and offset appear to be fixed.
Which mounts did you go with?. According to the More blurb these will bolt in to the original engine mount chassis holes and also have the offset built in to clear the front prop but i must admit i wasnt sure where the gearbox and the back of the engine will end up.
 
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Halifax
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#22
Well mounts are temporarily sat in using the shortest bolts i had that would do the job!.
As this is all trial fitting, had to take some metal out of the bump stop bracket and a bit out of the MORE bracket so it would line up with the bolt holes.
In MORES defence it did mention in the instructions it may need altering.

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Halifax
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UK
#23
Engine sits quite nicely the only issue i have is that although these mounts are advertised for both V6 and V8 they must both mount in the same place so as this is a V6 then the whole engine and gearbox is a bank of cylinders further forward than it was.
So its thrown the whole lot 3 to 4 inch further forward than it was mounted which will make good for access to the engine and will ensure i have no distributor issues as sdsupilot mentions but not sure if it will cause issues with the gearstick as the T176 is a really short box so i dont want to be smashing my knuckles in to the dash when changing gear.
Also means i will need to redrill the skidplate and also extend the rear prop and shorten the front prop to make it all work.

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City
Halifax
State
UK
#25
Well after some measuring and head scratching i reckon this is where the mounts need to be or the shifter will miss the hole in the body tub and be sat under the dash.
If the gearbox was 4" longer or it was a V8 then i think it would be fine but need to come up with a plan to place it here instead once i ensure the front prop will fit okay.
As a side note the 4L60E would have the opposite problem as that is one very,very long setup, the D300 shifter must end up between the seats somewhere surely!.


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#26
Well, that's a bummer!

Like you, based on their description, I would have guessed that the mounts would have worked equally well for the 350 and the 4.3. They worked great for my 350!

Is there space on the mounts to drill new holes, or will you have to drill the frame? Of course, welding is always an option.

Good luck! :cheers:
 

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#27
Would swapping the mounts from side to side (in that case it would flip them around) and be a difference of a few inches or am I going the wrong way with this... probably won't work, just looking at it before my coffee and it jumped at me.

cb
 

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#29
Could be, I don't know much about that Chevy v6... I am just going through my normal troubleshooting... is it plugged in? did you put it in backwards? Are you sure you didn't change anything? oh, you changed something... funny you said you didn't... what did you change?

that sort of stuff... lol.

cb
 

sdsupilot

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#30
I would be pretty tempted to move the engine back and weld the mounts in place. Since the frame is sloped down, you may need to put some strap steel on top of the frame to get the engine to sit back (Mine slopes 4 degrees down from front to back).
 

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#31
Some measurements from mine.

I put a square on the front of the engine. The square shows the front of the serpentine pulley at 7” back from that hole/oval in the passenger side frame rail. 6D4FC9F8-54F7-46C5-828B-C1161A965FB6.jpeg

The center of the distributor is 4 3/8” from the firewall.
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From the firewall to the arm of the belt tensioner is 25”. That is about 20 5/8” from the center of the distributor cap to the belt tensioner (for reference on yours)
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If you don’t go further back than that, you should have plenty of clearance.
 
City
Halifax
State
UK
#33
Thanks for the measurements sdsupilot will check and see where we are with it all next time i am at the workshop.

Dumb question, have you talked to MORE?
No i haven't as i think the issue i have really isn't to do with the mounts they are completely fine its the combination of a shorter V6 with a T176 which has its shifter on the top of the box whereas most Jeep manual gearboxes seem to have the shifter at the very rear of the box so everything is getting thrown towards the front of the Jeep.
As said the mounts are made with an offset to tilt the engine towards what would be the drivers side in the US so cannot reverse them etc they were mounted correctly before i believe.
I can drill the shorter mount and still get it in some of the engine mount holes but the longer one is going to need some fabrication work if i want to bolt it on.
They need welding on regardless of where they end up i just need to work out where that is first!.
 
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