Legacy Scramblers
- Thread starter jak inc
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- City
- Ashburn
- State
- VA
Yours is backwards!!!! (Just kidding - man I love that color)
Manhattan
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Atlanta
- State
- GA
I fall into this category - but with a limited budget. I did basically ^that^ - bought lots of new stuff, a crate motor (just a 5.7 though), etc. So, I absolutely have no problem with this type of build. It's just the damn price - $175,000-200,000 is just insane, because they did exactly and ONLY that - just assembled a Jeep(like truck). They didn't "build" a Jeep.
It's worth noting, that we're apparently not alone in our thoughts on these - it looks like they've created 1 Legacy Scrambler. That green one is shown under all three version - with and without the sticker pack.
Playing the "I won the lottery game", I'd have to go with an Icon and use the left over $75,000 to explore the hemisphere...
- City
- Hampstead
- State
- NC
There just doesn't seem to be 190k worth of vehicle in any Jeep! You can't physically cram it in there...they are too basic. That is where I have trouble with the price.
- City
- Columbia
- State
- MO
I agree but you have to add in all the labor hours to put it together and I'm sure those add up pretty quick. For me (if I had unlimited funds that is...) I'd rather spend the money on a true custom build. Maybe something like this Jeep Mighty FC Expedition concept:
- City
- Dallas
- State
- tx
I fall into this category - but with a limited budget. I did basically ^that^ - bought lots of new stuff, a crate motor (just a 5.7 though), etc. So, I absolutely have no problem with this type of build. It's just the damn price - $175,000-200,000 is just insane, because they did exactly and ONLY that - just assembled a Jeep(like truck). They didn't "build" a Jeep.
It's worth noting, that we're apparently not alone in our thoughts on these - it looks like they've created 1 Legacy Scrambler. That green one is shown under all three version - with and without the sticker pack.
Playing the "I won the lottery game", I'd have to go with an Icon and use the left over $75,000 to explore the hemisphere...
Unfortunately "ICON" does the same exact thing, body from Aqualu, frame from Art Morrison, Crate Engine, Best top seats, etc, etc. , last time I checked, they were running b/w $175-$200k for the FJ's, more for the Bronco's
These vehicles fall under the "Man Jewelry" category. A Rolex is no better in keeping time than a Timex, but it's a status symbol. Golf course buddies aren't impressed with Timex
scrambler81
Basic User
- City
- Hammonton
- State
- NJ
Well....I just got an estimate of $1,200.00 to fix some bubbled paint on the fender of my Wrangler. Seems to make $190,000.00 for a whole danged Jeep sound a bit more reasonable, don't it?
- City
- Redmond
- State
- OR
I thought I read on their website that 1000 man hours went into each build. Most repair shops charge $100 per hour, with paint going for more. I only charge around half of that, but shops that have actual storefronts in my area that do custom work charge $150ish. My paint guy has no problem getting 10k plus for a custom metallic job. If that's the case, labor eats a huge chunk of the price. I don't even want to think about the hours that have already gone into my Scrambler build, and I'm not even done! I'll have a quarter million dollar Scrambler when I'm done!
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- City
- Redmond
- State
- OR
Jim, maybe someday! Just have to get some inventory!
- City
- Bedford
- State
- NH
Hmmm, that means that I have to add about $50-60K to the value of each Jeep I built
cb
Manhattan
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Atlanta
- State
- GA
I just don't see 1,000 hours in these (or that - since, there's one). Imagine 5 expert builders working everyday for 8 hours each day for a month. That's 1,000 hours. Given the lack of any fab' work, I'd assume 20% of their time was spent unpacking boxes. Okay, there may have been 10-15 hours online ordering parts. Oooh... I bet they're counting the 3-5 business days waiting for UPS to deliver the parts.
red mistress
Red Jeep Collector
- City
- Piney woods
- State
- tx
Glad they built a tribute Scrambler and all...
But I don't think attention to detail is there.
Besides all the china crap......How about a CJ automatic brake pedal !
Manhattan
Legacy Registered User
- City
- Atlanta
- State
- GA
Ha! Hadn't noticed that. And, that gas pedal looks like it's out of a Greyhound bus.
I also noticed that the seats appear to be swapped side-to-side, e.g. passenger side seat on driver side - makes grabbing the release lever a bit of a challenge. Probably didn't clear the cage... 'cause nothing's custom
Hi Guys, Legacy Owner Winslow Bent here. I appreciate both the support and criticism. I am a lifelong Scrambler fan and bringing a re-creation of these back to life has been a pleasure. I agree on the gauges and shifter looking a little off and think it will be revisited on future builds. However, no of this was done in haste or without purpose. Much of the special work that went into this Jeep is no visible from a couple of photos. I am happy to elaborate and look forward to criticism.
As far as the body and parts used, everything was basically "catalog", some vendors being much better than others. The aqualu tub is a great product as are the Gen-right fenders and bumpers. The finishing bits, like hinges are all a bit disappointing, but thought I would run with the best I found find. I assume the dash pad is "china crap", but everything else on the truck was purchased as being "US Made" or at least NAFTA, if you consider the tub is from Canada. Made in the USA is important to our brand and customers, so we try really hard to stay on that path.
Some of what your are NOT seeing on this build, and a HUGE cost factor, is that the whole truck was build to current US Mil-Spec standards. The engine and power train is not Cummins, but a Fiat sourced V-6 turbo-diesel like the new Ram 1500 has. This is the non-emission mil-spec version that was used in the Boeing Phantom Badger. It, along with the tranny, are Banks supplied, and pass the 400-hour NATO torture test- which is no small claim. My understanding is that the Cummins platform could not do it for this package. The engine runs on J1939 protocol and is a multi-fuel, meaning ULSD, bio, J-8, jet fuel, and home heating oil will all be fine in the tank. It starts from -40 and will run in 140F temps. We ran that power train into a 3.0:1 Atlas. The 6-speed is an absolute dream as far as the total range is concerned. The "Ugly" shifter allows direct trans communication via GM LAN with no adapters and full manual shifting.
For the electrical system we developed a custom CAN network based on the same J1939 the engine runs. We used an ISIS ECU and powercells with HMI and WestGaurd Marine Custom Pressed switches and actuators. We build our own J1939 backbone to interface the engine, gauges, and switches. With full logic, everything is controllable and programable for the end-user. The entire harness is weather packed and ISO ruggedized. There are no "Hot" wires running the length of the truck, just low-amp data wires. No fuses to blow. This provides maximum reliability is all conditions. We are just one-step away from having the system wi-fi enables so we can log-into the vehicle for diagnostics from anywhere on the planet. Pretty cool if this is a safari rig or on a remote ranch. Yes the gas pedal is from a Greyhound. Its a big-*** Williams pedal, with dual outputs to the trans and engine. Also mil-spec and sealed. This level of Commercial/Industrial/Military engineering is not normally seem on Civilian aftermarket, but we assure it is done correctly and with the intention of minimizing down-time and repair for remote mission requirements. The problem is of course cost. While cool, will the Buyer actually be willing to pay the extra for this stuff- over a Painless harness and Speedhut gauges. We'll see what the market will bear. Its freakin awesome, but the cost makes my knees shake.
- City
- Olathe
- State
- KS
It sounds like you have spent considerable time and engineering efforts making choices.
Many of us see a price tag that size and expect pure perfection (usually a show car); it sounds like you spent the money more on durability, reliability and toughness.
How much is a crate jeep 3.0?
How much does it weigh?
Many of us see a price tag that size and expect pure perfection (usually a show car); it sounds like you spent the money more on durability, reliability and toughness.
How much is a crate jeep 3.0?
How much does it weigh?