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Make it a Gipper Edition and try to get Ollie North, George Sr, etc to take some pics with it! That'll net some charity funds.

Rubberhook, if I'm still in NJ when you get it, I'll help prep. Otherwise, I'll try to get in on it when it gets in the VA/NC area. I'm transferring.
 
I'm in on this great idea...

Lots of parts sitting here looking for a new home... I just need a list of what's needed, and I can check my pile(s).:rolleyes: :D

As a first step, I suggest we decide exactly what we're going to do... specifically and detailed. Understanding of course, that no 'plan' is unalterable and that the ultimate 'product' may not ultimately turn out to be our initial 'target'. But we do need a definable objective to work towards.

I suggest we select a "project manager" to come up w/ an objective (I guess the contemporary phrase is "Mission Statement") and a plan to get there. Then, come up w/ the various 'sub-assembly' managers (driveline, body, engine, interior, etc...). Also need to come up w/ logistics and supply assistants, either at project level, sub-assy or both level(s). Determine parts collection and assembly location(s).

If this is to be a charitable effort, we should endeavor to get the right IRS designation for 'suppliers' to be able to write-off donations. As well, b/c there are some liability issues, we may want to make this a non-profit corp. to protect the managers, suppliers and assemblers. (Leave it to the lawyer to come up w/ 'friction points'.:rolleyes: :( )

In regard to titling this vehicle, I'd suggest we either procure a frame or tub... or both that has a valid title thereto assigned and incorporate that/those pieces in some 'significant' way. The vehicle is then legit. - legally and ethically. We can choose the state to title our 'creation' based on their definition of "significant" (or whatever term/phrase they use to determine legitimate VIN transfer/usage).

Once a basic working organization is created, I suggest a seperate forum(s) to describe organization & objective(s) thereof; detail planning/coordination (or announce changes thereto); make donations; track progress; highlight notable issues, etc...

Volunteers for project manager and/or other positions, or requirements?
 
The organized, analyst/project manager side of me is kicking in here... :D

I could put together a basic webpage with a mission, and a table of 'sub-assembly managers', donors (real names & usernames)/parts/location/contact info (?). I could add a "mailto:" link that'll auto-generate basic information in the body of an e-mail to me so it'll be somewhat brainless for the donor to include all pertinent information.

Doing this won't pull all the logistics together, but it'll be a single, organized source to track what we have, and from whom. I could also add a "needed parts" section on the same page to provide an easy way to view what we're still looking for.

I would need to know the true intent in terms of the intended build (streetable, stock-ish, etc.) to help me with the "Mission Statement", but it sounds like a stock-ish Scrambler, with a legal VIN# is the core goal (not a ground-up, assembled-title build). I'll also need to re-read the info about the charity ideas to figure out how to work that in.

Timeline would also need to be discussed, as would the "tour" intentions. For example, how many events would this Scrambler show up at (and where) before it was auctioned off for charity?

I LOVE organizing stuff like this. Let me know if you guys would like me to handle this aspect of the project, and we'll go from there.

Craig
 
process

some more overall thoughts:

1. Just my personal opinion, but I am also more along the lines of doing this grass roots instead of commericialized and donated megaparts and bling from major companies. There are going to be some pieces that just cannot be found or used old (decals, trim pieces, etc) that we will have to buy new. But, I think it would be so much more meaningful and grass roots if the vehicle were built from everyones parts. Even if like someone else said, its a inverse raffle or something. Get companies to donate stuff to raffle off and then use that money to buy the pieces that we need used or pay for services that we can't do ourselves.

2. I think it would also be good in the name of resurrecting and saving scrambles to find one that is just beyond saving, one that that someone normally would not want to try to resurrect. Find a legitimate scrambler with a title and VIN and start from scratch on it. Thereby proving we are all about "preserving" the originals. Even if we have to piece it all back to gether using a tub from a different one and a frame from a different one (if thats the case) we are still preserving the original title & VIN thereby saving an original CJ-8 from extinction.

3. If the body pieces were painted, and the frame was painted, taken care of .. All major assembly could be completed in once place.. But, someone is going to have to have a double trailer to bring their scrambler and the project vehicle to Arkansas.

4. I definitely like the idea of raffling it off and proceeds to charity. The SOA organization is fine on money right now. I will have to verify this, but I believe that all donations of parts etc, could be tax deductible since we are a non-profit.

5. As we have already seen, if we say the proceeds of the raffle will go towards a charity, there will be some very strong feelings towards what charity that will go towards. The person who organizes this will have to be willing to contend, decide fairly, organize vote, etc.. what that charity is. And once it is decided, people need to live with it and move on. Could be possible to split it between 2-3 charities. The more you spread it across the more publicity you will probably receive.

And lastly... I think this is a incredible, wonderful, great idea and it has some great potential to give the organization and our vehicles some great publicity. But, I hate to be the person to rain on this parade. As the current president, and seeing how historically have things have worked for the organization in persons fulfilling and COMPLETING the roles and how they are working right now, we can't even get people to volunteer and fill the needed officer and other positions yet. We currently have an open position of treasurer that nobody is stepping up to. We need to have people step up and fulfill these roles before we can take on other projects and tasks. We also have the event committee that will be starting up for the 2005 event that we will need help on. I really don't think we have any business taking on other projects or tasks if the ones that are required (both by law, and function) are not being fulfilled. We won't have an organization to be touting.

Yes, this will take the coordinated work of many people but the major coordination, organization, and completion of a few very dedicated persons. Initially it will take one person grabbing this by the reigns and organizing a few others.
 
location/repository

BTW. We can create a whole section on the new SOA site to dedicate to the buildup/process. It supports uploading spreadsheets/docs etc.. that can easily be updated.

The website is VERY easy to edit, just like using a word proc editor.

Matt
 
I guess the first thing that has to happen is to identify the various aspects of what has to be done. Then we need to find people willing to take responsibility for each aspect. if we can't get that accomplished then there really is no sense in going any further.

I think it would also be good in the name of resurrecting and saving scrambles to find one that is just beyond saving, one that that someone normally would not want to try to resurrect. Find a legitimate scrambler with a title and VIN and start from scratch on it.
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That descibes mine to a tee....:)

I do agree though. In my opinion it ought to be a labor of love for us, and reflect our commitment that we think these are the best jeeps ever.

I'll volunteer to be on a commitee to figure out where we go with this....I don't want to be the one organizing it though. Although I consider myself a good manager, I'm very goal oriented and will achieve what ever goal is placed before me. I'm not a great goal setter though.....Does that make sense?:confused:
 
Time and place is always the tough part. If it ever makes it near Colorado I have time to donate. Seems like a good idea to me. I do like the idea of the SOA taking ahold of this since we could have a starting point there for money to be held for a purchse of parts or Jeep. Doing the whole rebuild over a few days at the Nationals might be hard though. We might be able to set a worlds record on a jeep rebuild though?

TK
 
And someone with good camera skills should make sure we get pictures from start to finish of project Frankenscrambler.


Rather sounds like mine. I'm pretty sure it was put together from several donors plus some new parts before I got it.
 
Frankenscrambler.

Frankenscrambler.
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Love the name. What will need for a promo pic is the revived '8 w/ JC as the infamous Doctor!

Oh yea, just realized, if JC has to abandon his sawzall, Eric has to keep his RHD parts to him self!;) ;) ;)
 
pics of donor

Free to the SOA

One project Scrambler 1982.....has engine...has tranny (t-176), but top cover of tranny has one corner broken off (acutal tranny cover, not the thin metal floor plate)....no radiator or transfer case.

decent frame, decent tub.

here are the pics
 
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Make it a Gripper Edition and try to get Ollie North, George Sr, etc to take some pics with it! That'll net some charity funds.
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FrankenScram is a clever idea, but I suggest *JOKER*'s Idea for a duplicate GIPPER'S SCRAMBLER! As *JOKER* indicates, the added PR would be many times higher (and so would the worth for charity! $$$$$$ )! :D

*******Matt your concerns should also be addressed, but first hang on a minute. :) **********


HERE's the OTHER STORY>>>>MY SPECIAL RESERCH PROJECT>>>>>THE GIPPER SCRAMBLER!!!>>>>>>>>>>>
Someone on this site sent out the photo of President Reagan's blue "GIPPER SCRAMBLER" last week (enclosed below) and I have been tracking it down. President Reagan was SO PROUD of his SCRAMBLER that he insisted on touring GORBACHEV in it at the Reagan Ranch with Cowboy hats donned!

Well, after a few web searches, learning the history of the Reagan Library and the Reagan Ranch, and many emails, and a few phone calls I FINALLY FOUND IT!!! You will be happy to know it is in great shape and is currently at the former REAGAN RANCH, Rancho del Cielo located in Southern California! That Ranch is now owned by the Young America's Foundation.

THE GIPPER SCRAMBLER is not currently on display as it needs a little love and care first. I have been in contact with the president of The Young America's Foundation. They are currently about to perform a mild restoration of the famous GIPPER SCRAMBLER. I let him know that he should not hesitate to ask for our consultation/opinions or even perhaps a little manual assistance in the effort. He has been very receptive to our interest in the GIPPER SCRAMBLER and has sent me several very welcoming emails!

Now...WHAT we build...or should I say HOW we build this scrambler is up to the group. BUT...IF... we build a GIPPER SCRAMBLER I would be willing to help define the requirements for the vehicle and continue my dialog with the owners of the REAL GIPPER SCRAMBLER. Think of it....we could perhaps build BOTH the duplicate GIPPER SCRAMBLER for charity, AND perhaps help restore/maintain the REAL McCoy - GIPPER SCRAMBLER !

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As for the help with the SOA...Matt, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! :) We should all help! So, Contact me individually and I will see what I can do to help. I'm not the best in matters of cash, but let's see what you would have me do! :)
 
Photo of Ronald Reagan in Red CJ-8 with Dog in field! HE LOVED this Jeep. But when one of the Ranch Hands rolled it, the First Lady bought the GIPPER SCRAMBLER! >>> :D
 
Re: I found a Hood, MAYBE?

BritScrambler said:
I see that eegs2k is selling a hood! Perhaps we can charm him into adding it!? "Who's his buddy?" :D
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Who is going to charm me? LOL!

I could probably donate the hood if you guys need it.

Let me know.

Dave
 
WHAT A NICE GUY !!!

I guess we're ALL your budies!

So what do you think gang? Will this be our new GIPPER SCRAMBLER Hood? :)

THANKS DAVE, WHAT A GUY !!!
 
Who's it gonna be?

Okay DUDES! We need someone to step up to be the "Point Man!" Who's gonna keep "The Plan?"

Matt is RIGHT ON with his idea of Grass Roots. Lets not make this too big of a deal! Lets DO WHAT WE DO BEST...build a Rig!

We need:

1) a Point Man and

2) a theme, like GIPPER SCRAMBLER, or something more "attention getting."

1) Craig? Someone else?

2) Best Theme? GIPPER SCRAMBLER? or?
 
could do the pair

Way to much of a project, but I couldn't resist

got a gipper 6 too..

free to SOA..!
 
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!

Lee, Man you are too cool! WOW!

A GIPPER CJ-6!!!

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

Say did you guys notice that in this photo of the GIPPER CJ-6 that he is hauling with a trailer (through a field on his Ranch with Fencing wire and his favorite dog)!
 
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