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Well finally start building

My concern was the poly bushings would not have a flat surface to sit on but after looking around this doesn't seem to be a concern. My basic layout is in this attachment.jeep front spring rear mount 2.jpg
 
Weld in your tube to take up the offset and space the shackles correctly.

Not tough.

That said, I could find you offset shackles, but since you're doing this, it's the best way.

I'd then run a boomerang.
Boomerang why tell me my good man. I'm looking to understand.
 
This pic is the way the springs would sit with the current reverse shackle system and 5" shackles. When the frame is fully loaded (jeep complete) the shackles will be in a more vertical or leaning back position (this my estimation). The springs are OMU HD and the motor is basically stock 258 plan on winch for front bumper (bumper weighs in at a solid 100lbs).
Curious about the need for boomerang shackles?jeep need for boomerang shackles.jpg
 
This pic is the way the springs would sit with the current reverse shackle system and 5" shackles. When the frame is fully loaded (jeep complete) the shackles will be in a more vertical or leaning back position (this my estimation). The springs are OMU HD and the motor is basically stock 258 plan on winch for front bumper (bumper weighs in at a solid 100lbs).
Curious about the need for boomerang shackles?View attachment 118925
Just my :twocents:...
It appears you already have shackles, and the sleeve locations through the frame are already determined.
Why not just install what you have and once you have the frame fully loaded you can determine which way to go, swapping to boomerang shackles if needed should be a quick easy swap.
 
To my eye those shackles are going to put the spring eye against the frame on droop and compression regularly.

@FLCJ8 has a point to just see where you end up, but that simply doesn't look like enough clearance between the frame and eye for as much as I see shackles moving unless this is purely a road-driven Jeep (and even then...)
 
To my eye those shackles are going to put the spring eye against the frame on droop and compression regularly.

@FLCJ8 has a point to just see where you end up, but that simply doesn't look like enough clearance between the frame and eye for as much as I see shackles moving unless this is purely a road-driven Jeep (and even then...)
I agree. Now FLCJ8 point is where I was going. Assemble with current shackles and get a visual and any relevant measurements. To Bigwalton''s point it appears there is going to be an issue. My question is will boomerang shackles cure the impending issue or is there something I have to address now while the frame is at a very workable position? Like having to relocate the sleeve hole.

Thanks folks
 
I agree. Now FLCJ8 point is where I was going. Assemble with current shackles and get a visual and any relevant measurements. To Bigwalton''s point it appears there is going to be an issue. My question is will boomerang shackles cure the impending issue or is there something I have to address now while the frame is at a very workable position? Like having to relocate the sleeve hole.

Thanks folks
Here is some information that may be pertinent to your situation.

One is a YouTube video by M.O.R.E for the installation of their kit, the other is the install instructions with pics.
They both have some information on shackle location and angles for their product that may be of help.


 
Here is some information that may be pertinent to your situation.

One is a YouTube video by M.O.R.E for the installation of their kit, the other is the install instructions with pics.
They both have some information on shackle location and angles for their product that may be of help.


Thank you. I have checked this information out before.
Thanks again appreciate all you folks input
 
IMO You just need to find a regular HD extended shackle that will end up being more like a normal shackle for you in this situation.

The other issue you need to deal with is your caster angle (and pinion angle as they’re connected) with this setup to maintain drivability. That’s going to control things as much as your spring hitting the frame. You’d be able to mock up a shackle with some flat stock with holes in it to fine tune your caster angle and then find (or have made, simple yo do) the correct length shackle.

Too little caster and you end up with all kinds of drivability issues form death wobble, to steering not recentering to wandering on the road.
 
Greetings. Made a few changes to original plan. Here's a couple pics of current progress.


jeep 6.jpg

Remove old (small) bushings.
 
Purchased new brake lines from Classic Tube very nice but. My original steel fuel lines are in good shape but are a little dirty with surface rust. Now I said self don't go crazy your on SS pay check. Priced the new 3 lines and my goodness approx. 300 bucks. So major choice more romin or meat. Break out the soda blaster (Meat wins and of course the appropriate PPE). After soda blast inside and out they look presentable (save 300.00) On to the next.
Thoughts?jeep11.jpg
 
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