Gazzo's Down-under CJ thread

[jerseyjeeps]

Just thought I'd share this with the world

Pretty sure I have the only CJ bonnet in the world without rust under the hinges. :bacondance:

Hey folks I need your help. I'm trying to get a full rebuild gasket kit for the 360. Having more trouble than I thought I would. Can someone point me in the right direction please? Tried summit Morris and qtec. Not a full kit any where there

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What are u doing removing those bonnet hinges ???!

 

[gazzo]

Thanks guys I'll check out kegs and Az.

The bonnet hinges are off cause I'm doing the full Monty on this truck now plus I just can't believe how every bolt I come to actually comes out! So far ALL Torx screws have come out easy and there is no rust lurking except the the one big blob on the right hand rocker panel.

Colour will be OD with black satin waggies.

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[gazzo]

You try Rockauto?

Rock auto rocks! Thanks my good man, kit is on the way.

Woohoo now I get to put the big blue blob up on the stand and get stuck into it. It's been about 15 years since I rebuilt the 6 in my CJ7 and I must say I have developed a hankering for a recon. Not sure I want to paint it standard blue when it goes back together though. Thinking silver or grey with black heads. Definitely not red like the 7.

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[rispony]

Just thought I'd share this with the world

Pretty sure I have the only CJ bonnet in the world without rust under the hinges. :bacondance:

Hey folks I need your help. I'm trying to get a full rebuild gasket kit for the 360. Having more trouble than I thought I would. Can someone point me in the right direction please? Tried summit Morris and qtec. Not a full kit any where there

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Warning: this may be a stupid question. Can someone please explain why these spots usually get so rusty? I never understood it. I had no rust on my entire truck when I got it except for these two hinge spots. And the bolts were tight as could be. Also, how can it be avoided in the future?

 

[gazzo]

Warning: this may be a stupid question. Can someone please explain why these spots usually get so rusty? I never understood it. I had no rust on my entire truck when I got it except for these two hinge spots. And the bolts were tight as could be. Also, how can it be avoided in the future?

Not at all a stupid question. Near as I can tell our esteemed mates at Jeep bolted all bare steel (zinc anneal) parts together AND THEN spray painted the body. This can be seen when taking off a roll bar and finding rust under the base plates and no or little paint where the bar goes close to the side of the tub. These cats simply power screwed (Torx) everything together then painted. Capillary action draws water in where it can and before you know it rust starts to weave its magic between close "bare" metal surfaces such as roll bar mounts, seams, windscreen hinges, door hinges, support pillars like near your accelerator foot and, my favorite because it's horizontal and won't drain, the hood hinges.
The paint visible under where my hinges are is testament to the fact that my PO was aware of this f up and did something about it when he resprayed the truck some years ago.
If only these guys at the factory realised, or acted on their suspicions, that bare metal surfaces will possibly create a problem about 13 weeks after they leave the factory we'd all be driving round in primo tub jeeps.
Old mate Rommel would be out of a job then, hmm I smell a conspiracy.


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[wm69]

For future reference, if you do a google search there are usually 5% off codes for Rockauto available on retainmenot and other similar discount code sites. The other trick is making sure the little truck pops up next to items ordered so it all ships out of the same warehouse (otherwise, they charge you shipping for each shipment from a separate warehouse, which would kill yall who are overseas). The closeout stuff is a bargain for sure.

I get wiper blades, oil filters, air filters etc from there in big lots. Saves a lot lot of money, and you can get good stuff.

 

[gazzo]

For future reference, if you do a google search there are usually 5% off codes for Rockauto available on retainmenot and other similar discount code sites. The other trick is making sure the little truck pops up next to items ordered so it all ships out of the same warehouse (otherwise, they charge you shipping for each shipment from a separate warehouse, which would kill yall who are overseas). The closeout stuff is a bargain for sure.

I get wiper blades, oil filters, air filters etc from there in big lots. Saves a lot lot of money, and you can get good stuff.

Thanks Will. I noticed that little truck thing today. I was trying to order cam bearings, 30 thou oversize rings, timing set and harmonic balancer. They came from 2 places and you're right the freight was double. I think that happened with my one floor pan and gasket set, prolly from two places.

So I stripped the 360 today. Very happy with what I found. No big lip on the bores, some scaley rust in the jackets but a good acid bath will fix that and very nice big end bearings and journals. I think the engine may have been rebuilt at some stage hence the oversize.

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[gazzo]

So it's been a while. Plenty has happened since my last post here. I have been posting over on JF a lot but you know what, that seems like a real waste of time other than a record of my activities with this truck. Only a couple of vocal followers. Pretty lonely and a bit of a disappointment when you log in and see that guys would rather fight about flags, whether a mall-crawler is a bad thing and where the "Jeep" brand is going instead of discussing or commenting on a fellow member's very rare good ole jeep truck. Maybe I'm just being too precious.

Anyway the engine is rebuilt, that worked out real nice and I have it up on a mobile stand which is super handy. I run it up from time to time just for jollies although I don't want to do that too much for fear of glazing bores and so on. Does sound good though super tight and quiet on the stand, no horrid noises coming from inside.
I got a four barrel manifold for it and scored a 600 square bore Holley for the top from my brother in law.
The chassis got blasted and I closed it in as much as possible to try and take some of the flex out which was causing the body structure where it mounts to the frame to crack. Seems to have worked, when I try to lift one corner of the frame off the stands it has a little resistance now where as before I could lift one side about two inches before the other side started to come up.

Something you Scrambler guys will like though is the other project in the shop is the twin white CJ8s. The other chassis got blasted and this weekend got POR15'd. The spray job on the top coat (satin) was not good unfortunately, combination of dude not wearing his glasses, paint too dry (no thinners) and gun too close to the job. Got a lot of texture which was not good. Didn't achieve the real powder coat look he was after. Question: do you guys reckon I could put a second top coat on tomorrow (three days after the last coat) without having to tie coat or dry sand the whole thing? I think we could.

hey I gotta get back to work but I will come back and post up a bunch of pics, I know we all like photos.

 

[wm69]

PICS, PICS, PICS!

Yep, this board has a lot fewer members, and a lot better members. That's why I look at this board first every day.

 

[gazzo]

Picture collage for ya. See if you can piece it together.



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[wm69]

Looking at some of these threads makes me really really want a bigger shop.....

 

[Pman]

Gazzo, I'm chompin' at the bit watching this!! One of these days, ONE OF THESE DAYS, I'm going to tackle a body off resto of mine. And I agree with WM69, I'm just a wee bit envious of your garage space situation. Can't wait to see what happens next!

 

[gazzo]

Thanks pman, nice to have you drop by.

This bloody clutch issue is a pita. I finally just went ahead and got on ordered at Morris then they tell me it's a special order in and will take another week and a half. Seriously? Can't believe this things so hard to get hold of.
Anyway today I got the engine mounts sorted. Cut the welded-on tags off and cleaned up. Seems all of them had plates welded on as well as bolted, weird. Reckon Wednesday I'll stick the trans onto the engine and offer it up to the chassis to see if I smile or spew. Not exactly sure how it'll all sit, clearance on the tub etc. leaving the crossmember and trans mount where they were and letting the engine fall where it may is making me nervous.
Popped the cover off the donated AMC20 rear since it had a leak. Spotless inside, no bits, water or other horrors. Wear pattern is spot on so I'm pretty happy all round.
Hey I read in another thread on JF that the 20 in the waggies was a bit beefed up compared to the CJ ones. Is that correct? I wouldn't have said so looking inside and the casings are identical :dunno:


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[gazzo]

Whilst I wait for my clutch to get here I decided to get my tub down and get the rotisserie sorted. A few hours later it was all done complete with a lock ring to hold it in any position I choose in 45 degree increments.

Then wifey called me home and suggested we take the 7 out for a spin (good girl) which culminated at Cottesloe Beach for fish and chips. This is Perth city then "Cott Beach" in pretty much dead of winter

Loving life.


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[Pman]

I hate you Gazzo!!! Ok, just kidding....That nice garage space and the rotisserie...ahhhhhhh..... Looking really, really good!

And don't you love how the Spousal Unit's generally view Jeeps? If I was working on an old truck or building a deer stand, the wife would be raising cane, but it's funny how they view working on the Jeep almost like you are building them a spa or something (ok, maybe it's not that good of a view but at least in my case I don't get the constant evil-eye when I'm wrenching on these things).

 

[MrBeep]

It sure makes it much nicer when there is excess room available

 

[gazzo]

I've had a forty foot container in my business workshop from a job I planned 3 years ago which I didn't go ahead with due to the GFC. I finally got sick of ot taking up half my shop do shipped it off to a mates truck yard where they're using it for storage. Win win. Wifey works with me and has a dim view of jeep ness appearing on the real work space so these moments of enormous jeep heavens are short lived unfortunately.


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[gazzo]

Got a bit done yesterday on the lorry. My clutch arrived so I got the engine and trans together and got all that mounted into the frame. Brought the tub in and lowered it on for a clearance check. Just makes it. Had to relocate the mounts back a long way though from where a Cherokee would be. Kinda makes me wonder where the 360 sits in a Waggies with a four speed. Anyway it fits and that's that.

To make this a legitimate scrambler entry the V6 conversation on old mates CJ8 is coming along nicely. I think I mentioned he blasted the second frame and we've sprayed por15. Looks awesome as a rolling powered chassis now. Working on fuel pumps and all the plumbing. Attention will be turned to the tub soon.
It may end up Jamaican Beige like my truck I think. Would be kinda cool to set up and paint every part of two CJs at once. Phew that will be a big day.


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[Randyzzz]

Nice progress!

The Waggy 20 (actually a 23) has factory 1 piece axles, and thicker tubes. Biggest problem I've encountered is twisting the axle shaft splines, which seems to cause the axle to run off center and then start leaking. And you have to destroy the bearing to replace the seal...

 

[gazzo]

So I brought my 8 down from the beach for a bit of mid winter (spring) tweaking. I have a list of things that need attention, rust, leaks, rust and some leaks. Driving back to the city I noticed a pretty bad scraping noise and figured brakes. Turns out both fronts were ground down to metal. Rebuilt them both yesterday including welding a socket to one of the stupid inverted Torx bolts. PO had loctited them and they were stuck fast. Anyways all done now.
Also decided to go ahead and kick on the stainless dress rims. Looks reasonable I think.

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