New purchase...'85 Scrambler Renegade

[luvinmyjeeps]

dibs

hey im putting my dibs in now for the steering column and wheel if you get rid of it also wouldnt mind having the wrigleys doublemint gum wrapper on the floorboard if your giving it up, michigan jeep good condition well id have never thought to see those 4 wrds together nice find man your good cjay-8

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

hey im putting my dibs in now for the steering column and wheel if you get rid of it also wouldnt mind having the wrigleys doublemint gum wrapper on the floorboard if your giving it up, michigan jeep good condition well id have never thought to see those 4 wrds together nice find man your good cjay-8

That's because it's not a Michigan Jeep...it's from Atlanta, Georgia. It'll be stored winters, though, so it won't see salt.

Craig

 

[luvinmyjeeps]

my bad wasnt paying attention

i loved your dana your standards rock so what kinda paint you use when you go through all that cleanup got to be using a good paint thx jay

 

[luvinmyjeeps]

question

so what does one of them there diesels run and if you were using diesel fuel what kinda mileagge you looking at you are going through lots of trouble and expense to rig her up just wondering if your gonna see some of the payback on the deal hey i know where to find you though might see you at mcdonalds one day getting some free fuel while im across the street paying 5-6 a gallon lol jay

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

i loved your dana your standards rock so what kinda paint you use when you go through all that cleanup got to be using a good paint thx jay

Thanks. I used primarily POR-15 on my first Scrambler, but also used Eastwood paint for some small parts. I like the durability of POR-15, but you definitely have to prep well. Actually, I found that the POR Marine Clean degreaser doesn't do a good enough job by itself. I always wipe down parts a couple times with acetone to get all residual grease/grime/dirt off (even after it looks clean).

so what does one of them there diesels run and if you were using diesel fuel what kinda mileagge you looking at you are going through lots of trouble and expense to rig her up just wondering if your gonna see some of the payback on the deal hey i know where to find you though might see you at mcdonalds one day getting some free fuel while im across the street paying 5-6 a gallon lol jay

This particular Nissan diesel was also used in International Scout trucks from '76-80 ('80 was a turbo diesel). By parting out the donor Jeep, I ended up with the motor, transmission, dash & wiring for free...just my time involved in tearing down the Jeep. I don't have that much into the Jeep at the moment. You just have to be creative in your parts trading, and have patience. Since I work so slowly, I can afford to wait for deals. Mileage should be in the 23-25mpg range. I got just over 20mpg in the CJ-10a I built up previously, and it had aggressive (energy sucking) 34" x 9.5" TSL Swampers. Since I'll be running BFG A/Ts on the Scrambler, mileage should be better.

Craig

 

[luvinmyjeeps]

need help

could you help me fab up a bicycle to a generator outside and hook it to my 60 inch flat screen lcd, id like to save energy this nfl season so while im sitting on my arse watching indy play ball my wife can be outside on the bike producing my energy lol in all seriousness here what are you trying to acheive ut of all this seems your spending alot of money to do something that you dont seem to need being as how you ride your bike to work and you only got to drive about3 miles to wrk round trip why dont you ride that motorcycle to work gallon of gas get you to wrk for weeks im not knocking you at all i promise i just hate when i see people trying to save the earth when they are doing so much other crap to destroy it but seem to think that stuff doesnt matter as long as they are saving a buck or two on an alternate source of fuel and what of all these toxics your gonna be producing , by trying to do a good thing are you doing a bad thing cheaper to wear a tie die shirt and pretend like everyone else jay

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

could you help me fab up a bicycle to a generator outside and hook it to my 60 inch flat screen lcd, id like to save energy this nfl season so while im sitting on my arse watching indy play ball my wife can be outside on the bike producing my energy lol in all seriousness here what are you trying to acheive ut of all this seems your spending alot of money to do something that you dont seem to need being as how you ride your bike to work and you only got to drive about3 miles to wrk round trip why dont you ride that motorcycle to work gallon of gas get you to wrk for weeks im not knocking you at all i promise i just hate when i see people trying to save the earth when they are doing so much other crap to destroy it but seem to think that stuff doesnt matter as long as they are saving a buck or two on an alternate source of fuel and what of all these toxics your gonna be producing , by trying to do a good thing are you doing a bad thing cheaper to wear a tie die shirt and pretend like everyone else jay

Punctuation, man...punctuation. I'm having a hard time comprehending.

To break it down:

• I already mentioned that I don't have that much into the Jeep. In fact, I have only spent a few hundred dollars above & beyond my initial purchase price, and that includes getting a full hard top, an '86 CJ-7 Dana 44 rear axle, new brake/fuel lines, a new driver fender, etc.
• Work isn't the only driving I do. I have in-laws 4 1/2 hours away, and parents 2 hours south. One out-of-state family vacation alone could save hundreds of dollars on traveling.
• I'm not sure what to think of your "Why do it when the rest of the world is going to hell anyway" comment. I have recycled my entire life. I just organized a "Green Week" event at my workplace. I am attending a rain gardens class in June, and hope to put one in sometime in the fall. This will be watered with water I collect & store from rainfall off my roof. I guess what I'm saying is that I think about this stuff in every aspect of my life - not just with my Jeep. I'm passionate about the environment, as you might guess.
• I rode a motorcycle as my only transportation for four (4) years when I was in college. While I love riding, and like the fuel savings, there are so many cell phone talking, text messaging, clueless drivers that I don't trust being on the road with them without any protection. That's why I like Jeeps...similar open-top feel, but with a lot more metal to protect me.
• We'll also be buying one of these Kuma Biodiesel-Approved Oil Stoves to significantly reduce our propane usage (we can't currently get natural gas)
  
  

Craig

 

[luvinmyjeeps]

enuff said

okay enuff said, just making sure you were legite, to many people out there talk the talk but dont walk the walk , just making sure you were for real and not a nutty job whom would kill off 50 trees to make a gallon of fuel so to speak, your efforts to me are admirable and i do hope one day we might meet up at one of these get togethers. I will stand by this though the world is going to hell as we speak i firmly believe that. I will enjoy keeping up with your build, here in a year or so im moving and going to have around 100 acres, id like to discuss windmill energy with you at a little later date my plan is not to be hooked up to any public electric source yet enjoy every aspect as if i was on it thx jay

 

[twmattox]

Craig,
On the bio-diesel stove...check the emissions output on them. What a lot of people run into is that the particulate emissions and gasses can be a lot worse with bio-diesel stoves vs. propane (resulting in people trying to be green but creating a worse situation). Granted, you will save a few $$$, and you are eliminating a carbon source, the end result may be environmentally worse (higher particulate and petroleum hydrocarbon emissions)... Propane (and natural gas) is a very environmentally friendly fuel (this is why a lot of electric plants are converting to it). Overall emissions are basically water and carbon dioxide.
Thoma

 

[twmattox]

okay enuff said, just making sure you were legite, to many people out there talk the talk but dont walk the walk , just making sure you were for real and not a nutty job whom would kill off 50 trees to make a gallon of fuel so to speak, your efforts to me are admirable and i do hope one day we might meet up at one of these get togethers. I will stand by this though the world is going to hell as we speak i firmly believe that. I will enjoy keeping up with your build, here in a year or so im moving and going to have around 100 acres, id like to discuss windmill energy with you at a little later date my plan is not to be hooked up to any public electric source yet enjoy every aspect as if i was on it thx jay

On a side note, if you are serious about windmill technology, let me know...a good friend does this for a living.

 

[revho]

just making sure you were for real and not a nutty job

you nailed him

 

[luvinmyjeeps]

paint

i like por-15 thats what im using, as far as painting the actual vehicle, im gonna take on the task of painting my jeep myself , no sense in paying 5 grand to have it done , i figure i could screw it up 20 times and still not have that kinda mny involved in it if i do it myself, i need your input on paint im preety much going bare metal -so i know ive got to use a epoxy based primer but what actual paint should i use there are like all these different poly urethane enamel and mixed - 1 step 2 step 3step ive been doing research and still have yet to get anywhere onthis matter , if you have some input your braintrust would be very beni to me , i just want a nice shine , little bit of flex in the paint so as to prevent chipping , anyhow send me a line when you got time , or anyone else for that matter as long as you know what your talking about thx jay i tried to puncuate a little more for you , at least a little, what can i say i failed typing miserably

 

[John N]

Craig, those large loop Winchester 94's (like in your stove picture) are getting sort of pricey. Don't wait too long to get one of those...

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

i like por-15 thats what im using, as far as painting the actual vehicle, im gonna take on the task of painting my jeep myself , no sense in paying 5 grand to have it done , i figure i could screw it up 20 times and still not have that kinda mny involved in it if i do it myself, i need your input on paint im preety much going bare metal -so i know ive got to use a epoxy based primer but what actual paint should i use there are like all these different poly urethane enamel and mixed - 1 step 2 step 3step ive been doing research and still have yet to get anywhere onthis matter , if you have some input your braintrust would be very beni to me , i just want a nice shine , little bit of flex in the paint so as to prevent chipping , anyhow send me a line when you got time , or anyone else for that matter as long as you know what your talking about thx jay i tried to puncuate a little more for you , at least a little, what can i say i failed typing miserably

Forums --> CJ-8 Scrambler Body Repair & Replacment --> New Thread

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

These are built out of 3/16" plate. I still have to make the cap for the underside of one, and topside of the other mount, and do a handful of finish welds. I'm really happy with the way they're turning out.

Craig

 

[twmattox]

Very nicely done!!!

 

[bigwalton]

Yeehaa! How long did it take to crank out those beauties? Nice!

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

Thanks guys.

Yeehaa! How long did it take to crank out those beauties? Nice!

If you count the time I spent thinking about the design, staring at the driveline sitting in the engine bay (on jack stands), rethinking the design, cutting out cardboard templates, and cutting/grinding with my two handy-dandy Milwaukee grinders (still one of the best tools on the planet, IMO), about 4 months. I have a couple days (partial) into cutting/shaping/welding them, with one more to go.

Craig

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

They're complete, with the exception of some sanding, and a final pass where the mount meets the frame plate with a buddy's 220V welder. I'm 95% certain that my Millermatic 135 would have done fine, but it'll just give me an added level of comfort using a stronger welder for this critical area.

Craig

 

[1x1_Speed_Craig]

I made some big progress this weekend. In addition to getting my pole barn more organized (an ongoing effort), I got the body removed from the Scrambler. It went pretty well. I used a combination of my motor hoist, and a forklift-style manual hoist (for materials handling) that I borrowed from my neighbor.

Semi-rolling frame ready to be stripped down. On the agenda:

• Bend new fuel & brake lines prior to complete tear-down to bare frame
• Remove 2" rear receiver & C-channel bracing
• Straighten minor tweak in rearmost crossmember
• Weld in motor mount plates
• Add some stitch welding to less-than-impressive factory welds holding the inner & outer frame rail sections together (not a repair, but rather a preventative thing)
• Have the frame acid-dipped & galvanized
• Prime w/primer that will stick to galvanized metal (I'll check with Finish Masters for recommendations), then top-coat with satin black

This should make things go a little easier going forward. I just got it hooked up & running this week.