- City
- Bedford
- State
- NH
It certainly feels like it! I have measured 6 ways from Sunday and I still think I am not accurate half the time.Sounds like measuring 50 times and cutting once.![]()
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It certainly feels like it! I have measured 6 ways from Sunday and I still think I am not accurate half the time.Sounds like measuring 50 times and cutting once.![]()



















I have a set of letter/number stamps. Personally I would just recreate the stamp to match the original frame and call it good. I know there are several states that want a vehicle branded as reconstructed or rebuilt if a frame is replaced. And that is a shame because such branding decreases value even though the new parts usually exceed the quality of the original. Other states want you to bring “constructed” vehicles up to current safety and emissions standards. Recreate the original frame stamp. There is no fraudulent intent.Over on the EB forum they're in a wadded up debate over the VIN on the frame and how most of the builders are getting away with titling a vintage EB with it's accompanying year of manufacture. They've given examples of some that have sold for north of 6 figures and having title issues.
I personally like paying property tax to the tune of $18/year on my 1973 but the guys that get hosed are the ones that spend the mega bucks and get a 2022 model year manufactured "kit car" that have to pay tax on the big number!
So I ask, if you prefer not to answer I totally understand, how is your VIN on this frame? Did you surrender a donor VIN and title and did the frame manufacturer then appropriately stamp that VIN on your frame.
Not too sure how all this stuff works, just askin'
Great progress - just remember up is down and right is left - same for forward back now that you've turtled that thing! Rock on CB!
When I had the Overlander “inspected” by a LEO to get a Bonded Title, the LEO looked at the VIN on the wiper motor, then ran that in the database, then signed the form.Over on the EB forum they're in a wadded up debate over the VIN on the frame and how most of the builders are getting away with titling a vintage EB with it's accompanying year of manufacture. They've given examples of some that have sold for north of 6 figures and having title issues.
I personally like paying property tax to the tune of $18/year on my 1973 but the guys that get hosed are the ones that spend the mega bucks and get a 2022 model year manufactured "kit car" that have to pay tax on the big number!
So I ask, if you prefer not to answer I totally understand, how is your VIN on this frame? Did you surrender a donor VIN and title and did the frame manufacturer then appropriately stamp that VIN on your frame.
Not too sure how all this stuff works, just askin'
Great progress - just remember up is down and right is left - same for forward back now that you've turtled that thing! Rock on CB!
And that vin plate unfolds and can be bolted to another Jeep so easily. Heck I have that plate from my first Jeep somewhere. Didn't mean to keep it when I sold it, it just happened.I personally think the VIN lives with the body, and specifically the windshield frame. But others (LEOs) might disagree. That is the only place on a Jeep with the “rosette rivets” meant to prevent VIN tatamperinge.










Looks great! That should hold for a long time.Surgery continues... tonights task was to put captive nuts in the frame.
Never did this before, so just went for it... wasn't too bad, just time consuming and very hot welding.
Drilled the holes out to fit the nut... even though the bolt is 5/8", the nut is 11/16" and with it not being round, you need just shy of 3/4" hole.
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Used a bolt to tap it into plate and center it.
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After 2 times using the bolt, it was pretty much wasted with the heat cycles and going in/out the hole... after each tack, I made sure the spatter/heat didn't fuse it in there, but the threads didn't hold up well on the bolt. Tapping the hole after it cooled down was always in the plan.
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With the one side done, onto the next side and once that was done, got the shackles into place.
NOTE: I have to figure out a solution to losing the rivet that held the original front crossmember on in the front lower c-channel.
That locates the shackle and doesn't allow it to move side to side.
I will tackle that tonight.
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All bolted down and tight... the 2x4 rails and HD mount... this baby is not going anywhere and is very solid.
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Side view
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Inside view. I have to clean the shavings out, but you can see that once this is turned "right side up" and this is upside down, the nuts are in there and probably won't move too much... I think the difference to OEM factory is that they were tacked in place... and/or spot welded in place when they built the original frames. Torquing them trying to remove them easily snapped rusty spot welds due to years of decomposition/corrosion.
This way I think will outlast me. It is welded 360 degrees and recessed into the frame and not just sitting on the rail with a couple tack welds. Only time will tell.
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Other side all set. Came out good... can't find my steering brace that goes from the one side to the other. I want to test fit that as well. I ordered it and put it in a "safe place".
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Rails were cleaned up as well on the outside... looking a lot better now.
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UPDATE: I found the brace... it was underneath the shackles... funny... I put it where I had no choice BUT to see it, and yet I failed to see it right in front of my eyes.Looks great! That should hold for a long time.
I have had to stop putting things in a “safe place” myself. “Safe”=“unfindable”. I’ve started keeping a notepad and labeling shelves and cabinets- I make a note of what I put in there and it’s pretty easy to find. Plus after 10 or so times spent reading the list while searching, you sort of memorize it!