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New purchase...'85 Scrambler Renegade

TXtrailbuggy said:
Have you thought about getting a deep/extra capacity tranny oil pan and cutting/re-welding for the clearance issue? The deep pans are only about $60 from Summit Racing.

Bo

Not for the SD-33 diesel (that I found). I already have a deep oil pan (the stock one), and mentioned that I had considered doing just what you mentioned. It's a good thing that I took the easy route, though. :rotfl:

BOBCAT said:
Craig,
What do you mean NO FIXED TIME FRAME, you have to have it done by June for the nationals. That way we can both debute our new scramblers.

Don:cool:

Hmmm...still not going to get stressed. :)


Craig
 
1x1_Speed_Craig said:
Not for the SD-33 diesel (that I found). I already have a deep oil pan (the stock one), and mentioned that I had considered doing just what you mentioned. It's a good thing that I took the easy route, though.

I was talking about the 727 transmission oil pan. Isn't the transmission pan the issue with driveshaft clearance with the TF-727?
 
Progress on the Scrambler has been slow with the cold weather, but I do have some updates on the biodiesel front.

In an effort to keep everything safe, and on the "up & up" with the township, I approached the Allendale Twp. Fire Inspector this week, and told him that I planned on processing biodiesel. I wanted to know what codes applied to this. His first response was, "Yeah, there are a LOT of codes to address with that." I said I was sure there was, and if he could provide them to me, I'd make sure that everything was safe, and to code. He said he didn't have any of them handy, but would get back with me (after taking my information, of course). I think the idea just made him a little "twitchy". He did thank me for coming to them, though, and I hope to get all the info I need within the next week or so. It would greatly benefit everyone involved, as working with township residents will keep people from trying to fly under the radar, and potentially producing biodiesel in a less-than-safe manner.

Once everything is a "go", I'll probably end up buying the complete B100 Appleseed Processor kit. I can get an electric water heater (not included with the kit) at a discount from work. I could get all the parts to build this processor at a discount from work, but the complete kit includes a lot of extra items I'll need anyway, such as a titration kit, digital scale, MSDS sheets, etc. It'll just make it much easier & faster to get the complete kit.

I also plan to build a biodiesel wash tank using these Utah Biodiesel Supply plans. I have access to free 55-gallon poly drums, so that'll help.

Craig


B100 Supply Appleseed Processor set-up (only mine will have a poly wash tank rather than steel):
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Biodiesel Wash Tank:
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just found this post and have to say man is that 10a BADASS! looks like a pitbull! before you buy any of the bio-diesel kits, seriously think about making your own. imo they are not worth the money for someone who can fab and has a handle on basic plumbing and chemistry. i built my own reactor a couple of years ago for less than $30 and have been running the wifes jetta and the furnace in the house on it with absolutely no problems since. i wasnt sure i would like the whole biodiesel brewing or if i could even do it, so i started out building this thing the cheapest way possible. i had a stainless tank and some ss fitting laying around, but a steel 55 gal drum works too. my mixer is an old 5 amp rockwell drill (450rpm) with the reaction bar plumbed into the fittings on top of my tank to hold it steady. edmund scientific sells all the stuff you need for the titration super cheap- pipets and litmus paper. a scale you can get at staples. what are the kits going for like $3k? you can do it MUCH MUCH cheaper, trust me. my plan is for a diesel scrambler too...just down the road i bit farther than yours.

btw
not a fan of wvo as you still need diesel for starting and stopping. plus you really should run it hard when burning wvo to prevent coking, like on the highway, not stop and go or wheelin'. ALSO: keep it on the sly if you are running any biofuel in your vehicle because technically you are supposed to pay road tax on every gallon you burn, and last i checked it was like $.50-.75a gallon! if you use to heat your house, no tax, which is of course is all i do with it:rolleyes:
 
Craig, no offense, but why on earth would you alert local government to your biodiesel idea???? :rolleyes: You may as well kiss this idea goodbye as they will now hit you up with all kind of code requirements and permit needs. Most likely they will tell you that the volume is too high for a residence. Good luck, you're gonna need it. :eek:
 
rizz05 said:
what are the kits going for like $3k? you can do it MUCH MUCH cheaper, trust me. my plan is for a diesel scrambler too...just down the road i bit farther than yours...

...technically you are supposed to pay road tax on every gallon you burn, and last i checked it was like $.50-.75a gallon! if you use to heat your house, no tax, which is of course is all i do with it:rolleyes:

The processor setup will run me $750-800 using all new parts (including a new electric water heater). I'm certain I could piece it together for less $$$, but I have less time than money (but not much of either). ;)

Michigan road tax is only $0.19/gallon, and I can't find the link, but I read that the first 400 gallons are tax-exempt. Given that I work 1 1/2 miles from home and ride my bicycle to work 2-3 times per week, it'll take along while to hit that. :D


Kaiser8 said:
Craig, no offense, but why on earth would you alert local government to your biodiesel idea???? :rolleyes: You may as well kiss this idea goodbye as they will now hit you up with all kind of code requirements and permit needs. Most likely they will tell you that the volume is too high for a residence. Good luck, you're gonna need it. :eek:

I sat on the Township Parks & Rec committee for four years, and know some of the folks at the township...not that this is a guaranteed "in", by any means. It would benefit them to work with me, as I'll be very straightforward in telling them that they'll be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't (I know a lot of people locally who are also interested in processing bio). As I mentioned, I wanted to take the safe, honest route with this. If I shot myself in the foot by doing so, I'll come up with a "Plan B", and will ultimately still find some way to process my own biodiesel.


Craig
 
1x1_Speed_Craig said:
Michigan road tax is only $0.19/gallon, and I can't find the link, but I read that the first 400 gallons are tax-exempt. Given that I work 1 1/2 miles from home and ride my bicycle to work 2-3 times per week, it'll take along while to hit that. :D
Craig

dont you have to pay federal road tax too? there was an article in mother earth news about some people getting pinched in NC for not paying taxes and the fine was $1k. just a heads up.
 
rizz05 said:
dont you have to pay federal road tax too? there was an article in mother earth news about some people getting pinched in NC for not paying taxes and the fine was $1k. just a heads up.

I have only read about the state tax being applicable. Either way, this thread will self-destruct in 10 seconds. :rotfl:

Craig
 
seriously, best of luck and be safe: methoxide is no bueno! any qeustions you have feel free to ask, and any tricks or hints you come up with feel free to share! all my knowledge is the direct result of plagerizm!
 
1x1_Speed_Craig said:
I have only read about the state tax being applicable. Either way, this thread will self-destruct in 10 seconds. :rotfl:

Craig

in thinking about this all since the issue of taxes/etc. came up it did seem like all gov't entities that get road/transport money from gas taxes would want to be paid by people using alternate means of fuel. Seems illogical that state would apply but not federal.

This got me curious about the gas tax here and I looked this up, just for kicks:

http://savemymichigan.com/2007/05/24/breaking-down-michigan-gas-tax/

I hope you find out it's fairly reasonable and the exemption you mentioned takes care of it all... stick it to the man!!! :thumbsup:
 
rizz05 said:
all my knowledge is the direct result of plagerizm!

This has got to be one of the greatest lines I've heard...:D :D :D

Truck
 
As I understood it, the 400 gal max was the federal road tax. Your state and local taxes might vary. I too would have kept this quiet. But I would hate for a firefighter to be hurt in an explosion because they did not know you were storing explosives and flammables on your property. I never messed with biodiesel beyond a few 1 liter batches, I stuck to WVO.

Rob
 
I received a LOT of information today. First of all, the township approved my production of biodiesel. Despite being a little nervous about the outcome, I'm glad I went this route and validated things through the township. :cool:


Craig,

This sounds more like a home occupation than anything else. Home occupations are allowed by right. The only thing the Township will be involved in is the installation of the hot water heater, permitting and inspections are required for this installation. As a homeowner you can take out the permit and do the installation, when complete you will call for an electrical inspection and plumbing inspection.

The Township is not going to concern itself with this use as long as it is limited to your personal use, if you decide to use this process to manufacture and produce biodiesel for distribution to those who are not residents of this property that is another matter which will trigger additional concerns and regulations.

To the matter of environmental concern. No Allendale Charter Township department currently has any authority over any ground environmental issues that arise as a result of the biodiesel manufacture process. Such issues are handled through the Department of Environmental Quality by the State of Michigan.

I believe this satisfies your inquires at this time.


That being said, I have also been doing more research on WVO conversion systems, primarily as a back-up plan in case things didn't work out with the township. I ended up talking on the phone today with Chris from Frybrid. Frybrid & Greasecar seem to have the best WVO systems available, with the Frybrid system having slightly better reviews, and a more advanced WVO heating system. Chris was knowledgeable, and extremely entertaining...he's a fun guy to talk with. He said he could build me a custom tank for no extra charge, assuming it's a basic (non-complex shape) with about the same amount of welding as a "production" tank. Very cool! So, I have to hash through the pros & cons of each system with my wife, and make a decision from there. I'll have an update on the decision shortly. EDIT: My wife is leaning toward the WVO setup.

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I'm also making progress (slowly) on my motor mount plates (see below). Instead of just hacking some plate into rough-cut pieces, I once again took the slow, anal-retentive approach and I'm carefully cutting/grinding the plates to match the contours of the frame. There's no CNC-cut stuff here...just some old-school 4 1/2" Milwaukee grinder action. I had to carefully cut the pinion snubber bracket off the frame, and will re-weld it on the new motor mount plates. Note that these mounts will be located ~9" forward of the stock 258 I-6 motor mounts.

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I also bought one of these Warn PullzAlls from work. I have used it once to hoist a 10' steel I-beam about 10' up in my pole barn (it'll be located above my pole barn door, along with a dolly/caster setup for hoisting motors/transmissions and other misc. items). The PullzAll is rated for 1000 lbs., and has a built-in load limiter. So far, I'm impressed with the functionality. Using it in conjunction with my motor hoist, it'll come in handy for fine-tuning the motor positioning when I build the bracketry for the motor mounts using additional pieces of 3/16" plate, and the M.O.R.E. Bomb-Proof motor mount bracketry/bushings I purchased recently.

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Finally, a semi-local guy hooked me up with a couple FJ-40 jump seats for the rear. These fold up, and will allow me to retain (most of) my cargo space in the rear of the Jeep 95% of the time. These seats aren't exactly ideal for adult passengers (limited headroom, and kind of tight), but they'll be perfect for toting around kids' friends when needed. I'll have to make brackets similar to jscherb's to mount them; it'll be a fairly straightforward install.

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That's all for now. More to come...

Craig
 
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kgt0001 said:
Very nice find- one of my favorite colors.

One of MY fav colors too!

Looks alot like mine!

I've toyed with the idea of a diesel 5 cyl/bio-diesel setup for mine but recently acquired a complete FI setup so I guess I'll be going in that direction for now :)
 
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Well, with my wife's support, we bit the bullet...this BioPro 150 will be delivered to me in about 4 weeks. With 300+ gallons of used fryer oil on-hand, it'll be busy for a few weeks. :rotfl: I'm currently reading through the PDF version of the manual so I can hit the ground running once it gets here.

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I also got the official blessing from my township today to store the neccessary chemicals, and begin producing the biodiesel (follow-up details from the initial "thumbs-up". :cool:

I got my replacement windshield & hinges installed (the original had a big ol' dent in it), and bought new fuel & brake line (25-ft. rolls) for the Scrambler. I went with stainless brake lines on my old Scrambler, but couldn't justify the high cost since this one won't see salty roads ever (it'll be stored winters). I hope to have it torn down to a bare frame and acid dipped/galvanized within the next 2-3 months. Going to the Jeep Blessing, seeing all the Jeeps there (including my old Inca Gold Scrambler (now owned by ScottP), gave me some renewed energy to get going on mine again. :thumbsup:
Back to your regularly-scheduled surfing...

Craig
 
Fancy!

1x1_Speed_Craig said:
Well, with my wife's support, we bit the bullet...this BioPro 150 will be delivered to me in about 4 weeks. With 300+ gallons of used fryer oil on-hand, it'll be busy for a few weeks. :rotfl: I'm currently reading through the PDF version of the manual so I can hit the ground running once it gets here.
Craig

Right on! Very nice looking unit, definitly puts mine to shame:thumbsup: . What are you going to do with your glycerin? What is the sulfuric acid for in the processor? Good luck with the oil burner.
-Angelo
 
rizz05 said:
Right on! Very nice looking unit, definitly puts mine to shame:thumbsup: . What are you going to do with your glycerin? What is the sulfuric acid for in the processor? Good luck with the oil burner.
-Angelo

Thanks Angelo. :) We'll probably make some soap with our kids using a small amount of the glycerine. Our county health department will take the rest. I talked with the director a few weeks ago, and he was very helpful. I already take my used motor oil, coolant, etc. there, and he said the glycerine would be no problem.

The sulfuric acid is used in processors that use a 2-stage acid/base reaction (Appleseeds are a 1-stage reaction, and don't use this).

Craig
 
Driver-side frame mount mocked up & tack welded. I'll remove them from the frame to do the finish welding. Making progress...

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